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		<title>Café World Economics: Spiceonomics</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really didn&#8217;t think I was going to write another blog post about the economics of Café World.  However, the rollout of the spice rack was just begging for some financial analysis, and so here we are. Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic: Café World Economics: Profit &#38; Café Points Café World [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1402&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really didn&#8217;t think I was going to write another blog post about the economics of Café World.  However, the rollout of the spice rack was just begging for some financial analysis, and so here we are.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>The Economics of the Spice Rack</strong></p>
<p>The &#8220;Spice Rack&#8221; is a concept I have advocated previously for Farmville.   A mechanism to purchase items that would accelerate / change the equations for existing actions.  (My original request was for increased levels in Farmville to actually accelerate the length of time it would take you to harvest any crop, like a 10% cut in time, etc.)</p>
<p>Café World has rolled out 7 spices:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Mystery Spice</strong> &#8211; Random improvement (reduce time by 1,2,5 min, +5 or +20 CP, +5% or +10% servings)</li>
<li><strong>Super Salt </strong>- Increase the number of servings by 5%</li>
<li><strong>Power Pepper</strong> &#8211; Increase the number of servings by 10%</li>
<li><strong>One hour Thyme</strong> &#8211; Speed a dish by one hour</li>
<li><strong>Six Hour Thyme</strong> &#8211; Speed a dish by six hours</li>
<li><strong>Instant Thyme</strong> &#8211; Make a dish ready immediately</li>
<li><strong>Salvage Sage</strong> &#8211; Rescue a spoiled dish</li>
</ul>
<p>For this analysis, I&#8217;ve started with the simplest spices: <strong>Super Salt</strong> and <strong>Power Pepper</strong>.</p>
<p>For each dish, I calculated the increase (or decrease) in profit for buying the spice and applying it to one dish for the cycle.  I assume that Café World rounds down when you apply the 5% or 10%  increase in number of servings. I express the number as an &#8220;Return on Investment&#8221; percentage (ROI) on the cost of the spice.</p>
<p>So, for example, if spending 600 coins on Power Pepper yield an extra 150 coins of profit after subtracting the cost of the pepper, I describe that as a &#8220;25% ROI&#8221; for Pepper for that dish.</p>
<p><strong>Results of Spiceonomics</strong></p>
<p>There are a few very interesting takeaways from the table below:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Spices are rarely worth it. </strong> Salt &amp; Pepper have negative ROIs for almost all dishes.  In fact, in the history of the game, only 9 dishes are profitable when using the spices.  Interestingly, Grand Tandoori Chicken is net neutral (ROI = 0%).</li>
<li><strong>Spices help more advanced players.</strong> Almost all the dishes with positive ROI are at the higher levels.</li>
<li><strong>Spices help infrequent players more.</strong> The way the numbers work out, all the dishes where spices help are longer cooking time dishes.  This is good for players that might only play the game once a day (say, in the evening).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>The Spiceonomics Table</strong></p>
<p>Here is the summary table.  As usual, you can find all the supporting data in my <a href="http://bit.ly/cafe_world_economics" target="_blank">Café World Economics spreadsheet</a> on Google Docs.</p>
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<td width="159" height="12"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="72"><strong>Salt ROI</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="73"><strong>Pepper ROI</strong></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">Chinese Candy Box</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">200.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">200.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">Impossible Quiche</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">153.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">153.33%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">Gingerbread House</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">124.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">133.33%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">Chicken Pot Pie</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">84.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">85.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">Giant Dino Egg</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">80.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">80.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">V.I.P. Dinner</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">32.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">48.50%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">Martian Brain Bake</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">30.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">30.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">Ginger Plum Pork Chops</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">30.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">30.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#008000;">King Crab Bisque</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">9.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#008000;">10.83%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#000000;">Grand Tandoori Chicken</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#000000;">0.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#000000;">0.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Steak Dinner</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-4.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-2.50%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Homestyle Pot Roast</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-5.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-4.17%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Seafood Paella</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-6.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-6.67%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Mystical Pizza</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-8.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-8.33%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Veggie Lasagne</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-10.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-10.00%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Chicken Adobo</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-18.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-18.33%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Delicious Chocolate Cake</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-21.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-20.83%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Herbed Halibut</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-25.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-25.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Overstuffed Peppers</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-28.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-28.33%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Loco Moco</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-30.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-30.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Savory Stuffed Turkey</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-40.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-40.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Crackling Peking Duck</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-40.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-40.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Lavish Lamb Curry</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-45.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-45.33%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-46.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-46.67%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Dino Drumstick</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-50.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-50.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Lemon Butter Lobster</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-55.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-55.00%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Voodoo Chicken Salad</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-56.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-55.83%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Rackasaurus Ribs</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-57.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-56.67%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Stardust Stew</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-58.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-58.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Bacon and Eggs</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-58.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-58.00%</span></td>
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<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Smoked Salmon Latkes</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
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<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Tostada de Carne Asada</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Valentine Cake</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
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<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Sweet Seasonal Ham</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-60.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Shu Mai Dumplings</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-61.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-61.33%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Corned Beef</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-63.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-62.50%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Fish n Chips</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-67.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-67.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">White Raddish Cake</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-68.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-67.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Vampire Staked Steak</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-68.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-67.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Triple Berry Cheesecake</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-73.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-72.50%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Kung Pao Stir Fry</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-73.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-73.33%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-78.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-78.33%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Spaghetti and Meatballs</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-78.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-77.50%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Fiery Fish Tacos</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-80.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-80.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Eggs Benedict</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-82.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-81.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Pumpkin Pie</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-82.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-82.67%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Atomic Buffalo Wings</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-84.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-84.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Crème Fraiche Caviar</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-89.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-89.33%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">French Onion Soup</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-90.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-90.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Belgian Waffles</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-90.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-90.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Macaroni and Cheese</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-92.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-91.50%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Buttermilk Pancakes</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-93.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-93.33%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Tikka Masala Kabobs</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-94.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-94.00%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Caramel Apples</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-95.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-95.00%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Hotdog and Garlic Fries</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.00%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Powdered French Toast</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-97.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.00%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.33%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.33%</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Chicken Gyro and Fries</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.67%</span></td>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.67%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-98.00%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Bacon Cheeseburger</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-100.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-99.33%</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="159" height="12"><span style="color:#ff0000;">Chips and Guacamole</span></td>
<td width="72" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-100.00%</span></td>
<td width="73" align="right"><span style="color:#ff0000;">-99.50%</span></td>
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<p><strong>Updated Tables for Profits, Café Points, and Real Hourly Wages</strong></p>
<p>Have trouble figuring out whether <strong>Mystical Pizza</strong> is a good dish?  Deciding on whether to make the <strong>Dino Egg</strong> or <strong>Rackasaurus Ribs</strong>?  My Google Doc is now updated with tables for all 62 Cafe World dishes for data, and color coded based the cooking time of each dish, to help make picking the right dish easy.  Rather than cut &amp; paste everything here, I&#8217;m going to just link to the doc.</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/cafe_world_economics" target="_blank">Click here to view the Google Doc</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I take the time to create a whole new post for Café World in 2010, and what does Zynga do?  They roll out some new crazy dishes based on an alien invasion, and now I&#8217;m 1.6M Café coins poorer.  Oh well. Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic: Café World Economics: Profit [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1366&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I take the time to create a whole new post for Café World in 2010, and what does Zynga do?  They roll out some new crazy dishes based on an alien invasion, and now I&#8217;m 1.6M Café coins poorer.  Oh well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I find it fairly interesting that Zynga is clearly mapping the same thematic variants from Farmville to their other games.  I remember when they did the space theme for Farmville (I still have 5 alien cows that produce Milktonium as proof&#8230;)</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t repeat the previous analysis.  As a reminder, all of these numbers assume:</p>
<ul>
<li>The numbers are per dish, per stove</li>
<li>The numbers assume the cost (15 coins) and experience (+1) of cleaning the stove each cycle</li>
<li>Profit &amp; Cafe Points tables assume &#8220;instant&#8221; cleaning time.</li>
<li>Real World Hourly Wages assumes a cleaning time of 1 minute per stove.</li>
</ul>
<p>You can read my previous posts for the rational behind these assumptions.</p>
<p><strong>Profit per Dish</strong></p>
<p>Here are the dishes, sorted by profitability as measured by profit per dish per day.</p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="144" height="12"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="69"><strong>Profit / Cycle</strong></td>
<td width="61"><strong>Cycle Time</strong></td>
<td width="61"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">V.I.P. Dinner</td>
<td width="69" align="right">9,786.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">13,048.00</td>
</tr>
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<td width="144" height="12">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td width="69" align="right">22.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">6,336.00</td>
</tr>
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<td width="144" height="12">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,985.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,970.00</td>
</tr>
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<td width="144" height="12">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td width="69" align="right">985.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,910.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,435.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">840.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,888.57</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td width="69" align="right">490.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,880.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td width="69" align="right">485.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,820.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Martian Brain Bake</td>
<td width="69" align="right">5,585.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,585.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,355.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">360.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,420.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td width="69" align="right">5,370.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,370.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,785.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,355.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td width="69" align="right">11.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,280.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td width="69" align="right">10,185.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,092.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td width="69" align="right">67.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,824.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td width="69" align="right">50.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">15.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,800.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td width="69" align="right">595.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">180.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,760.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td width="69" align="right">65.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,680.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td width="69" align="right">385.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,620.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,485.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,455.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td width="69" align="right">135.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">45.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,320.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td width="69" align="right">885.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">300.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,248.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Stardust Stew</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,535.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">540.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,093.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td width="69" align="right">28.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">10.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,032.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,985.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,985.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,960.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,920.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td width="69" align="right">7,585.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,792.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,785.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,785.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,885.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,770.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,685.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,580.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td width="69" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,885.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,320.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,147.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td width="69" align="right">130.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">60.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,120.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td width="69" align="right">245.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,940.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td width="69" align="right">57.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,736.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td width="69" align="right">910.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,730.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Gingerbread House</td>
<td width="69" align="right">13,485.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">7,200.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,697.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,585.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,585.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">French Onion Soup</td>
<td width="69" align="right">425.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,550.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,235.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,470.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Caramel Apples</td>
<td width="69" align="right">195.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,340.00</td>
</tr>
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<td width="144" height="12">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,935.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,967.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,695.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,695.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td width="69" align="right">845.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,690.00</td>
</tr>
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<p><strong>Café Points per Dish</strong></p>
<p>Here are the dishes, sorted by café points per dish per day.</p>
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<col width="138"></col>
<col width="98"></col>
<col width="61"></col>
<col width="90"></col>
<tbody>
<tr style="text-align:right;">
<td style="text-align:left;" width="138" height="12"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="98"><strong>Café Points / Cycle</strong></td>
<td width="61"><strong>Cycle Time</strong></td>
<td width="90"><strong>Café Points / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td width="98" align="right">7.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">2,016.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td width="98" align="right">14.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">10.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">2,016.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td width="98" align="right">4.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,920.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td width="98" align="right">21.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,512.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td width="98" align="right">14.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">15.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,344.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td width="98" align="right">15.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,080.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td width="98" align="right">22.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,056.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td width="98" align="right">21.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,008.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td width="98" align="right">31.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">45.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">992.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td width="98" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">816.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td width="98" align="right">63.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">756.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td width="98" align="right">156.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">360.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">624.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td width="98" align="right">200.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">600.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td width="98" align="right">49.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">588.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td width="98" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">180.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">544.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td width="98" align="right">22.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">60.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">528.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td width="98" align="right">41.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">492.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td width="98" align="right">273.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">840.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">468.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td width="98" align="right">75.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">450.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td width="98" align="right">403.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,320.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">439.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Caramel Apples</td>
<td width="98" align="right">35.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">420.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td width="98" align="right">206.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">412.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td width="98" align="right">403.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">403.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Stardust Stew</td>
<td width="98" align="right">139.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">540.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">370.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td width="98" align="right">123.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">369.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">French Onion Soup</td>
<td width="98" align="right">61.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">366.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td width="98" align="right">168.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td width="98" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">300.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">326.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Martian Brain Bake</td>
<td width="98" align="right">314.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">314.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td width="98" align="right">100.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">300.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td width="98" align="right">140.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">280.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td width="98" align="right">252.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">252.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">V.I.P. Dinner</td>
<td width="98" align="right">175.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">233.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td width="98" align="right">225.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">225.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td width="98" align="right">166.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">221.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Gingerbread House</td>
<td width="98" align="right">1,063.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">7,200.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">212.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td width="98" align="right">210.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td width="98" align="right">102.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">204.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td width="98" align="right">351.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">175.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td width="98" align="right">307.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">153.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td width="98" align="right">76.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">152.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td width="98" align="right">279.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">139.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td width="98" align="right">113.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">113.00</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p><strong>Real World Hourly Wage per Dish</strong></p>
<p>Here are the dishes, sorted by the real world hourly wage for each dish per day, in US dollars.</p>
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<col width="141"></col>
<col span="2" width="103"></col>
<tbody>
<tr style="text-align:right;">
<td style="text-align:left;" width="141" height="12"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>$ / Hour (Low)</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>$ / Hour (High)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Gingerbread House</td>
<td width="103" align="right">121.35</td>
<td width="103" align="right">264.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td width="103" align="right">91.66</td>
<td width="103" align="right">199.57</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">V.I.P. Dinner</td>
<td width="103" align="right">88.07</td>
<td width="103" align="right">191.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td width="103" align="right">68.26</td>
<td width="103" align="right">148.62</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Martian Brain Bake</td>
<td width="103" align="right">50.26</td>
<td width="103" align="right">109.43</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td width="103" align="right">48.33</td>
<td width="103" align="right">105.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td width="103" align="right">35.86</td>
<td width="103" align="right">78.08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td width="103" align="right">35.41</td>
<td width="103" align="right">77.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td width="103" align="right">34.06</td>
<td width="103" align="right">74.16</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td width="103" align="right">30.91</td>
<td width="103" align="right">67.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td width="103" align="right">26.86</td>
<td width="103" align="right">58.49</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td width="103" align="right">25.96</td>
<td width="103" align="right">56.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td width="103" align="right">24.16</td>
<td width="103" align="right">52.61</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td width="103" align="right">23.26</td>
<td width="103" align="right">50.65</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td width="103" align="right">17.64</td>
<td width="103" align="right">38.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td width="103" align="right">16.96</td>
<td width="103" align="right">36.94</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td width="103" align="right">16.06</td>
<td width="103" align="right">34.98</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td width="103" align="right">15.25</td>
<td width="103" align="right">33.21</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Stardust Stew</td>
<td width="103" align="right">13.81</td>
<td width="103" align="right">30.08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td width="103" align="right">13.36</td>
<td width="103" align="right">29.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td width="103" align="right">12.19</td>
<td width="103" align="right">26.55</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td width="103" align="right">11.11</td>
<td width="103" align="right">24.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td width="103" align="right">8.86</td>
<td width="103" align="right">19.30</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td width="103" align="right">8.19</td>
<td width="103" align="right">17.83</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7.96</td>
<td width="103" align="right">17.34</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7.60</td>
<td width="103" align="right">16.56</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5.35</td>
<td width="103" align="right">11.66</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td width="103" align="right">4.41</td>
<td width="103" align="right">9.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td width="103" align="right">4.36</td>
<td width="103" align="right">9.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">French Onion Soup</td>
<td width="103" align="right">3.82</td>
<td width="103" align="right">8.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td width="103" align="right">3.46</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7.54</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td width="103" align="right">2.20</td>
<td width="103" align="right">4.80</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Caramel Apples</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.75</td>
<td width="103" align="right">3.82</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.21</td>
<td width="103" align="right">2.65</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.17</td>
<td width="103" align="right">2.55</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.61</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.60</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.58</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.51</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.12</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.45</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.98</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.25</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.55</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.20</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.43</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.10</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.22</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p><strong>Special Bonus: </strong> I&#8217;ve now moved my spreadsheet over to this <a href="http://bit.ly/cafe_world_economics" target="_blank">Google Spreadsheet</a>.  Now you can see all the rows of calculation for some insight into Café World Economics.  As usual, let me know if you find mistakes or have questions&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Updates:</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added the following posts on Café World Economics since this one.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/03/21/cafe-world-economics-spiceonomics/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Spiceonomics</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[What better way to spend the waning hours of the first day of the new decade than to update all of the tables for the new dishes on Café World?  Zynga has added a number of new dishes over the past few weeks, so it&#8217;s about time for updated data on all the dishes. Since [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1356&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What better way to spend the waning hours of the first day of the new decade than to update all of the tables for the new dishes on Café World?  Zynga has added a number of new dishes over the past few weeks, so it&#8217;s about time for updated data on all the dishes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I won&#8217;t repeat the previous analysis.  As a reminder, all of these numbers assume:</p>
<ul>
<li>The numbers are per dish, per stove</li>
<li>The numbers assume the cost (15 coins) and experience (+1) of cleaning the stove each cycle</li>
<li>Profit &amp; Cafe Points tables assume &#8220;instant&#8221; cleaning time.</li>
<li>Real World Hourly Wages assumes a cleaning time of 1 minute per stove.</li>
</ul>
<p>You can read my previous posts for the rational behind these assumptions.</p>
<p><strong>How to use these tables.</strong> For me, I use the tables as follows:  If I know I won&#8217;t be able to check on my Café for the next 24 hours, I go down the table I&#8217;m trying to optimize for (money or experience) and I look for the first dish in the list that is 1440 minutes AND that I have enough experience to cook.  For example, I&#8217;m currently at level 42, so if I&#8217;m looking for a &#8220;1 day&#8221; dish, the first one for experience is Grand Tandoori Chicken.  But since I can&#8217;t buy that yet, I have to keep going down until I hit King Crab Bisque.</p>
<p><strong>Table #1:  Profit per dish </strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
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<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">5888.6</td>
<td align="right">245.4</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td align="right">5820.0</td>
<td align="right">242.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">5420.0</td>
<td align="right">225.8</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">5355.0</td>
<td align="right">223.1</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">4760.0</td>
<td align="right">198.3</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td align="right">4680.0</td>
<td align="right">195.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td align="right">4620.0</td>
<td align="right">192.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">4455.0</td>
<td align="right">185.6</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">4320.0</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">3985.0</td>
<td align="right">166.0</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">3792.5</td>
<td align="right">158.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">3785.0</td>
<td align="right">157.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td align="right">3770.0</td>
<td align="right">157.1</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">3580.0</td>
<td align="right">149.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">3147.3</td>
<td align="right">131.1</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td align="right">2940.0</td>
<td align="right">122.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td align="right">2736.0</td>
<td align="right">114.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">2730.0</td>
<td align="right">113.8</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Gingerbread House</td>
<td align="right">2697.0</td>
<td align="right">112.4</td>
<td align="right">7200.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<p><strong>Table #2: Café Points per dish</strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>CP / Day</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>CP / Hour</strong></td>
<td width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
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<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td align="right">1056.0</td>
<td align="right">44.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">992.0</td>
<td align="right">41.3</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td align="right">816.0</td>
<td align="right">34.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td align="right">756.0</td>
<td align="right">31.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">624.0</td>
<td align="right">26.0</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">600.0</td>
<td align="right">25.0</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">544.0</td>
<td align="right">22.7</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td align="right">492.0</td>
<td align="right">20.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">468.0</td>
<td align="right">19.5</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">403.0</td>
<td align="right">16.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">369.0</td>
<td align="right">15.4</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">235.6</td>
<td align="right">9.8</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">225.0</td>
<td align="right">9.4</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">221.3</td>
<td align="right">9.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Gingerbread House</td>
<td align="right">212.6</td>
<td align="right">8.9</td>
<td align="right">7200.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td align="right">204.0</td>
<td align="right">8.5</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">153.5</td>
<td align="right">6.4</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
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<p><strong>Table #3: Real World Hourly Wages per dish</strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="134" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="123"><strong>Hourly Wage (high)</strong></td>
<td width="115"><strong>Hourly Wage (low)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Gingerbread House</td>
<td align="right">$264.23</td>
<td align="right">$121.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">$199.57</td>
<td align="right">$91.66</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">$148.62</td>
<td align="right">$68.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">$105.22</td>
<td align="right">$48.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$78.08</td>
<td align="right">$35.86</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">$77.10</td>
<td align="right">$35.41</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">$74.16</td>
<td align="right">$34.06</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">$67.31</td>
<td align="right">$30.91</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">$58.49</td>
<td align="right">$26.86</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">$56.53</td>
<td align="right">$25.96</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">$52.61</td>
<td align="right">$24.16</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$50.65</td>
<td align="right">$23.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">$38.40</td>
<td align="right">$17.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td align="right">$36.94</td>
<td align="right">$16.96</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">$34.98</td>
<td align="right">$16.06</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">$33.21</td>
<td align="right">$15.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">$29.10</td>
<td align="right">$13.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">$26.55</td>
<td align="right">$12.19</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">$24.20</td>
<td align="right">$11.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">$19.30</td>
<td align="right">$8.86</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">$17.83</td>
<td align="right">$8.19</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">$17.34</td>
<td align="right">$7.96</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">$16.56</td>
<td align="right">$7.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">$11.66</td>
<td align="right">$5.35</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">$9.60</td>
<td align="right">$4.41</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td align="right">$9.50</td>
<td align="right">$4.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">$8.33</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td align="right">$7.54</td>
<td align="right">$3.46</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td align="right">$4.80</td>
<td align="right">$2.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
<td align="right">$1.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">$2.65</td>
<td align="right">$1.21</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">$2.55</td>
<td align="right">$1.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">$1.33</td>
<td align="right">$0.61</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">$1.31</td>
<td align="right">$0.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td align="right">$1.27</td>
<td align="right">$0.58</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td align="right">$1.12</td>
<td align="right">$0.51</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">$0.98</td>
<td align="right">$0.45</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">$0.55</td>
<td align="right">$0.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">$0.43</td>
<td align="right">$0.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">$0.22</td>
<td align="right">$0.10</td>
</tr>
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<p>Once again, a thank you to <a href="http://www.silvy-ariyanti.com/games/cook-your-best-dishes-on-cafe-world-game-facebook/" target="_blank">Simple Think</a>, which continues to have the most up-to-date raw data on Café World dishes at all levels&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted additional articles on Café World Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/03/21/cafe-world-economics-spiceonomics/" target="_blank">Café  World Economics: Spiceonomics</a></li>
</ul>
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		<title>Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The traffic to my blog from my first two Fishville blog posts has been staggering. How can I resist? That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP). Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230; I&#8217;ve been a little surprised to see how few accurate blog posts exist out on the web [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1344&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The traffic to my blog from my first two Fishville blog posts has been staggering.  How can I resist?  That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP).  Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1316" title="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png?w=300&#038;h=179" alt="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" width="300" height="179" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a little surprised to see how few accurate blog posts exist out on the web that break down the profit &amp; experience for Fishville.  For reference you can still find my first two blogs posts here:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/12/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/16/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-2/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 2</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Fortunately, I have found at least one new useful resource:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://fishville.wikia.com/wiki/FishVille_Wiki" target="_blank">The Fishville Wiki</a> (on wikia)</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;m at Level 42 in Fishville, so I can get almost all of the data myself.  However, I&#8217;m still missing the data for the last two fish:</p>
<ul>
<li>Blueline Trigger</li>
<li>Longhorn Clownfish</li>
</ul>
<p>If you have the data on either of these two fish, please post here in the comments.</p>
<p>In the past few weeks, Zynga has rolled out a number of new fish.  I&#8217;ve updated <a href="http://bit.ly/fishville_stats" target="_blank">my Google Doc</a> with all the updated numbers.</p>
<p>The most interesting addition has been a series of fish that you can only purchase with Sand Dollars, which is the Fishville denomination for game money that you have to buy with real money.</p>
<p>This poses a dilemma for my calculations, since I base profitability on coins spent to coins earned.  As a result, I needed a conversion ratio from Sand Dollars to Coins.  Although you can&#8217;t buy Sand Dollars with Coins, you can buy both with real US dollars ($) from Zynga with a scaling price table:</p>
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<td width="103" height="12"><strong>Dollars</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Coins</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Sand Dollars</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Coins / $</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>SD / $</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Coins / SD</strong></td>
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<td width="103" height="12" align="right">5</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7500</td>
<td width="103" align="right">25</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1500</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5</td>
<td width="103" align="right">300.00</td>
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<td width="103" height="12" align="right">10</td>
<td width="103" align="right">15800</td>
<td width="103" align="right">55</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1580</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5.5</td>
<td width="103" align="right">287.27</td>
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<td width="103" height="12" align="right">20</td>
<td width="103" align="right">33300</td>
<td width="103" align="right">115</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1665</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5.75</td>
<td width="103" align="right">289.57</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="103" height="12" align="right">40</td>
<td width="103" align="right">70600</td>
<td width="103" align="right">240</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1765</td>
<td width="103" align="right">6</td>
<td width="103" align="right">294.17</td>
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<p>Notice anything strange?</p>
<p>According to this table,<strong> the ratio of coins to sand dollars varies between 300 and 287</strong>, and in a non-linear fashion.  It&#8217;s as if Zynga didn&#8217;t compare the volume discount on coins to the volume discount to sand dollars when they generated these prices.</p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s non-linear, I decided to take the &#8220;average&#8221; ratio as my conversion.  So, for the purposes of this blog post, <strong>one sand dollar = 292.75 coins</strong>.</p>
<p>Using that ratio, I was able to regenerate my graphs.  Here is the graph showing profitability of each fish, per level.  All the assumptions from my second blog post still hold:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-profits-p3.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1345" title="Fishville Profits P3" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-profits-p3.png?w=400&#038;h=256" alt="" width="400" height="256" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">What you&#8217;ll notice is that some of the &#8220;sand dollar&#8221; fish are actually <strong>money losers</strong> for the first two levels.  That&#8217;s right, assuming my conversion ratio, <strong>you&#8217;d be better off just buying coins with your money</strong>, rather than buying sand dollars and then growing these fish!</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Now, the updated experience points chart tells a different tale:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-xp-p3.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1346" style="border:0 none;" title="Fishville XP P3" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-xp-p3.png?w=400&#038;h=259" alt="" width="400" height="259" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">In this case, you can clearly see that <strong>the best fish for experience</strong>, excluding the &#8220;fast fish&#8221;, are <strong>the sand dollar fish</strong>.  As a result, it&#8217;s pretty clear that what you are buying with your sand dollars is <strong>a fast path to rise up levels</strong>.  If you&#8217;re willing to spend the money on Batfish, you&#8217;ll be able to climb those levels quickly, and with much less work than minding 5 minute fish&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">You can reference the full data in <a href="http://bit.ly/fishville_stats" target="_blank">my Google Doc</a>.  Let me know if you see any issues with the calculations.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">For reference, I&#8217;ll include the Level 1 tables here, just in case there are issues reading the now huge Google Doc.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Profit per Fish when you harvest at Level 1:</strong></p>
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<td width="135" height="12"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td width="57"><strong>Profit / L1</strong></td>
<td width="70"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td width="81"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Sardine</td>
<td width="57" align="right">7.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">3</td>
<td width="81" align="right">2.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td width="57" align="right">11.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">5</td>
<td width="81" align="right">2.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td width="57" align="right">23.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">15</td>
<td width="81" align="right">1.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Klunzinger Wrasse</td>
<td width="57" align="right">26.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">30</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.87</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Bluedot Jawfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">115.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">180</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td width="57" align="right">21.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">45</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.47</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td width="57" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">60</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td width="57" align="right">34.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">120</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td width="57" align="right">46.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">180</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td width="57" align="right">54.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">240</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">78.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">360</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Purple Firefish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">580.75</td>
<td width="70" align="right">2880</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">81.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">480</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Flame Angelfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">89.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">600</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td width="57" align="right">124.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1080</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Longnose Butterfly</td>
<td width="57" align="right">165.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1440</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Mandarin</td>
<td width="57" align="right">125.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1200</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td width="57" align="right">99.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">960</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">72.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">720</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Golden Puffer</td>
<td width="57" align="right">423.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">4320</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td width="57" align="right">133.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1440</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Damsel</td>
<td width="57" align="right">195.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">2160</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Spot Grouper</td>
<td width="57" align="right">253.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">2880</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Parrotfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">76.50</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1440</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.05</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Moorish Idol</td>
<td width="57" align="right">53.25</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1080</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.05</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blackfoot Lionfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">-67.50</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1080</td>
<td width="81" align="right">-0.06</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Orbiculate Batfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">-238.50</td>
<td width="70" align="right">360</td>
<td width="81" align="right">-0.66</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Clown Triggerfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">-149.75</td>
<td width="70" align="right">180</td>
<td width="81" align="right">-0.83</td>
</tr>
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<p><strong>Experience per Fish when you harvest at Level 1:</strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="109" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td width="57"><strong>XP / Egg</strong></td>
<td width="50"><strong>XP / L1</strong></td>
<td width="79"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">1.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">1.07</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Orbiculate Batfish</td>
<td align="right">66</td>
<td align="right">330</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.92</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackfoot Lionfish</td>
<td align="right">79</td>
<td align="right">790</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.73</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Klunzinger Wrasse</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">0.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Clown Triggerfish</td>
<td align="right">23</td>
<td align="right">115</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Purple Firefish</td>
<td align="right">181</td>
<td align="right">1810</td>
<td align="right">2880</td>
<td align="right">0.63</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Parrotfish</td>
<td align="right">88</td>
<td align="right">880</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.61</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">0.44</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Moorish Idol</td>
<td align="right">47</td>
<td align="right">470</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.44</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bluedot Jawfish</td>
<td align="right">13</td>
<td align="right">65</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">40</td>
<td align="right">120</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td align="right">12</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">75</td>
<td align="right">240</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">110</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">26</td>
<td align="right">134</td>
<td align="right">480</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Flame Angelfish</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">160</td>
<td align="right">600</td>
<td align="right">0.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Butterfly</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
<td align="right">350</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td align="right">26</td>
<td align="right">260</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">17</td>
<td align="right">170</td>
<td align="right">720</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">220</td>
<td align="right">960</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">29</td>
<td align="right">290</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Damsel</td>
<td align="right">39</td>
<td align="right">390</td>
<td align="right">2160</td>
<td align="right">0.18</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Spot Grouper</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">450</td>
<td align="right">2880</td>
<td align="right">0.16</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Mandarin</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">130</td>
<td align="right">1200</td>
<td align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Golden Puffer</td>
<td align="right">42</td>
<td align="right">420</td>
<td align="right">4320</td>
<td align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Enjoy.  Happy Holidays.<strong><br />
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been distracted by Fishville lately, but the Zynga team has been busy rolling out new dishes for Café World, so I thought it was time for a new post on Café World Economics. This post is the third in the Café World Economics series: Café World Economics: Profit &#38; Cafe Points Café World Economics: [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1334&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been distracted by Fishville lately, but the Zynga team has been busy rolling out new dishes for Café World, so I thought it was time for a new post on Café World Economics.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>This post is the third in the Café World Economics series:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Cafe Points</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
</ul>
<p>But before I get to the new tables, I did some additional analysis based on my popular Farmville post, &#8220;<a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a>&#8220;.  I&#8217;ve produced a table that ranks all the Café World dishes based on the equivalent US $ / hour wage you are valuing your real world time when you play the game.</p>
<p>In order to do this, I needed to find some additional data.  The first was <strong>an effective value of Café World coins</strong>.  To do this, I used the payment schedule that Zynga has in the game (as of 11/30/2009):</p>
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<td width="144" height="13"><strong>Café Coins</strong></td>
<td width="115"><strong>Price ($)</strong></td>
<td width="145"><strong>Coins / $</strong></td>
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<td height="13" align="right">15280</td>
<td align="right">$4.99</td>
<td align="right">3062.12</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">45240</td>
<td align="right">$9.99</td>
<td align="right">4528.53</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">125280</td>
<td align="right">$19.99</td>
<td align="right">6267.13</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">333300</td>
<td align="right">$49.99</td>
<td align="right">6667.33</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">1000000</td>
<td align="right">$149.99</td>
<td align="right">6667.11</td>
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<p>Note the wide disparity in values!  If you pay the bare minimum ($4.99), you are valuing Café World coins at 3062.12 per dollar.  But if you pay at the high end ($49.99), you get 6667.33 coins per dollar.</p>
<p>Since there is such a wide disparity of values, I decided to calculate both a high and a low estimate for my table.</p>
<p>The second new piece of data needed was the &#8220;<strong>time spent per dish</strong>&#8220;.  This is something that I left out of my initial calculations, but makes sense in this context.</p>
<p>Since all of my tables are &#8220;per dish per stove per day&#8221;, I estimated that you need to spend one (1) minute per cycle to clean the stove, buy the dish, and click through the 3 ingredients, and then get the finished dish.  This might be a tad high, but it&#8217;s in the right ballpark.</p>
<p>What this means is that a dish that takes 5 minutes to cook is now estimated to have a cycle time of 6 minutes, with 1 minute of &#8220;real world time&#8221; spent.  So, 1440 / 6 = 240, which means to cook a 5 minute dish all day you&#8217;d need to cook 240 cycles, which implies a sign up for 240 minutes of &#8220;real world time&#8221;.</p>
<p>This allowed me to do the simple algebra to weigh the profit per dish per day, in Café World coins, and then subtract the real world time, and figure out the effective &#8220;hourly wage&#8221; of each dish.</p>
<p>As it turns out, whether you use the high value or low value for coins, the sort order is the same.  Here are all Café World dishes, sorted by &#8220;hourly wage&#8221;:</p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="134" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="123"><strong>Hourly Wage (high)</strong></td>
<td width="115"><strong>Hourly Wage (low)</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">$199.57</td>
<td align="right">$91.66</td>
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<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">$148.62</td>
<td align="right">$68.26</td>
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<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">$105.22</td>
<td align="right">$48.33</td>
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<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$78.08</td>
<td align="right">$35.86</td>
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<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">$77.10</td>
<td align="right">$35.41</td>
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<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">$74.16</td>
<td align="right">$34.06</td>
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<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">$67.31</td>
<td align="right">$30.91</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">$58.49</td>
<td align="right">$26.86</td>
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<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">$56.53</td>
<td align="right">$25.96</td>
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<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">$52.61</td>
<td align="right">$24.16</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$50.65</td>
<td align="right">$23.26</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">$38.40</td>
<td align="right">$17.64</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">$34.98</td>
<td align="right">$16.06</td>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">$33.21</td>
<td align="right">$15.25</td>
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<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">$29.10</td>
<td align="right">$13.36</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">$26.55</td>
<td align="right">$12.19</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">$24.20</td>
<td align="right">$11.11</td>
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<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">$19.30</td>
<td align="right">$8.86</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">$17.83</td>
<td align="right">$8.19</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">$17.34</td>
<td align="right">$7.96</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">$16.56</td>
<td align="right">$7.60</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">$11.66</td>
<td align="right">$5.35</td>
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<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">$9.60</td>
<td align="right">$4.41</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">$8.33</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
<td align="right">$1.75</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">$2.65</td>
<td align="right">$1.21</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">$2.55</td>
<td align="right">$1.17</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">$1.33</td>
<td align="right">$0.61</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">$1.31</td>
<td align="right">$0.60</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">$0.98</td>
<td align="right">$0.45</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">$0.55</td>
<td align="right">$0.25</td>
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<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">$0.43</td>
<td align="right">$0.20</td>
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<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">$0.22</td>
<td align="right">$0.10</td>
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<p>Now, these figures are a little misleading, because the dishes that result in high profit (like the Impossible Quiche) and that have long cycle times result in very low amounts of real world time.  As a result, if you can make $2 in a minute, you effectively get $120/hour.  Still, it makes a point.  If you are trying to minimize time spent in Café World for maximum profit, this is a pretty good list to go by.</p>
<p>First thing you&#8217;ll notice, is that Chips &amp; Guacamole may build your Café World coin stash, but they are not valuing your time very highly.  In fact, <strong>you have to get to Kung Pao Stir Fry to break above the living wage</strong> in California, at the low valuation for coins.</p>
<p>However<strong>, it also shows that the economics of these coin values are unsustainable.</strong> If Zynga allowed people to convert coins to US $ at these rates, then the value of opening up 50 Facebook accounts and cooking Impossible Quiche all day would beat most jobs.  ($200/hour = approx $400K per year!)</p>
<p>Just one of the interesting things you find when you crunch the numbers.</p>
<p>For those of you looking for updated tables with the new dishes, see below.</p>
<p>Café World dishes, sorted by profit per dish per day:</p>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
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<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">5888.6</td>
<td align="right">245.4</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">5420.0</td>
<td align="right">225.8</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">5355.0</td>
<td align="right">223.1</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">4760.0</td>
<td align="right">198.3</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">4455.0</td>
<td align="right">185.6</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">4320.0</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">3985.0</td>
<td align="right">166.0</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">3792.5</td>
<td align="right">158.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">3785.0</td>
<td align="right">157.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">3580.0</td>
<td align="right">149.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">3147.3</td>
<td align="right">131.1</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">2730.0</td>
<td align="right">113.8</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
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<p>Café World dishes, sorted by Café World points per dish per day:</p>
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<tr>
<td width="132" height="13">Dish</td>
<td width="75">CP / Day</td>
<td width="75">CP / Hour</td>
<td width="84">Min Per Cycle</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">992.0</td>
<td align="right">41.3</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">624.0</td>
<td align="right">26.0</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">600.0</td>
<td align="right">25.0</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">544.0</td>
<td align="right">22.7</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">468.0</td>
<td align="right">19.5</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">439.6</td>
<td align="right">18.3</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">403.0</td>
<td align="right">16.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">369.0</td>
<td align="right">15.4</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">225.0</td>
<td align="right">9.4</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">221.3</td>
<td align="right">9.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">153.5</td>
<td align="right">6.4</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: I&#8217;ve now published updated information on Cafe World Economics.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/03/21/cafe-world-economics-spiceonomics/" target="_blank">Café  World Economics: Spiceonomics</a></li>
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		<title>Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 2</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The traffic to my blog from my first Fishville post has been staggering.  How can I resist?  That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP).  Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230; I&#8217;ve been a little surprised to see how few accurate blog posts exist out on the web that break [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1319&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The traffic to my blog from <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/12/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels/" target="_blank">my first Fishville post</a> has been staggering.  How can I resist?  That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP).  Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1316" title="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png?w=300&#038;h=179" alt="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" width="300" height="179" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a little surprised to see how few accurate blog posts exist out on the web that break down the profit &amp; experience for Fishville.  Based on comments to my original post, I made some mistakes.  As a result, I&#8217;m posting this follow up to help address the most common concerns:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>What about Level 5 (and 6 and 7&#8230;). </strong> I classify my charts based on the completion of levels, which is a little confusing because in Fishville, your fish is &#8220;Level 1&#8243; until it completes the level, and then it is Level 2, etc.  As a result, you don&#8217;t get the &#8220;Level 1&#8243; experience until your fish reaches Level 2.  Confusing.  Even more confusing, after completing Level 4, your fish can continue to go up levels&#8230; it just won&#8217;t be worth anything more.  As a result, I ignore all levels above 4.</li>
<li><strong>Why doesn&#8217;t my experience number match yours?</strong> It&#8217;s because I&#8217;m including the experience you get from dropping the egg in the tank, not just the experience you get from harvesting.</li>
<li><strong>Level 4 doesn&#8217;t take the same time as the other levels. </strong> Oops.  This is correct.  I still don&#8217;t have accurate info on whether the &#8220;Level 4&#8243; time is the same for all fish (2 days) or different.  For this post, I use the 2 day number, which changes the economics considerably.  (Hint: It&#8217;s not worth your time to ever let this happen)</li>
<li><strong>Can you post a Google Doc of all your tables &amp; charts? </strong> See the end of this post.  First time for everything.</li>
</ul>
<p>To recap, here are the assumptions for my tables &amp; charts:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>I assume harvesting &amp; buying fish is instantaneous.</strong> Yes, I know its not.  Fodder for a future post.</li>
<li><strong>All profits are calculated per fish. </strong> Same with experience</li>
<li><strong>Total Experience</strong> = Experience from dropping egg + Experience from the level(s) of growth</li>
<li><strong>Total Profit</strong> = Revenue from harvesting the fist &#8211; Cost of the egg</li>
</ol>
<p>In my last post, I described how your &#8220;profit per minute&#8221; increases with levels, but your &#8220;experience per minute&#8221; falls with levels.  A lot of people didn&#8217;t understand this, so I decided to try some charts to illustrate.</p>
<p>Here is a chart I made in Google Docs showing the effect of increasing levels on Profit / Minute.  Because there is a fixed cost to buying a new fish, the linear increase in profit per level helps your profit / minute.  Of course, it falls off a cliff once you hit Level 4, and it takes up to 2 days to complete.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-profit-per-minute-per-level.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1322" style="border:0 none;" title="Fishville Profit Per Minute Per Level" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-profit-per-minute-per-level.png?w=400&#038;h=187" alt="Fishville Profit Per Minute Per Level" width="400" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">This means that, from a profit per minute perspective, it&#8217;s better to let your fish grow to complete Level 1, Level 2, and Level 3 before harvesting.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But there is a catch.  Because you get XP every time to buy an egg, the effect on experience points per minute is the opposite.  Every level you go, your experience points per minute drops!  See this chart to visualize:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-xp-per-minute-per-level.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1323" style="border:0 none;" title="Fishville XP Per Minute Per Level" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-xp-per-minute-per-level.png?w=400&#038;h=187" alt="Fishville XP Per Minute Per Level" width="400" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Based on the comments to my original blog post, it&#8217;s very obvious that most players continue to ignore the experience points you get for dropping an egg in your tank &#8211; choosing instead to focus only on the experience points you get when you harvest the fish.  Big mistake, because this leads you to keep fish around too long.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Since my last post, I&#8217;ve also been able to complete my tables for all current fish.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Here is the profit table for Level 1 profits:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="67"></col>
<col width="79"></col>
<col width="92"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="67"><strong>Profit / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="79"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">7</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">2.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">11</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">2.2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">23</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">1.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Inland Silverside</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">0.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td align="right">21</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">0.47</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">17</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">34</td>
<td align="right">120</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td align="right">46</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">54</td>
<td align="right">240</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td align="right">78</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">81</td>
<td align="right">480</td>
<td align="right">0.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Annularis Angelfish</td>
<td align="right">89</td>
<td align="right">600</td>
<td align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td align="right">124</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">99</td>
<td align="right">960</td>
<td align="right">0.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">72</td>
<td align="right">720</td>
<td align="right">0.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">133</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Damsel</td>
<td align="right">195</td>
<td align="right">2160</td>
<td align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p style="text-align:left;">Here is the experience table for Level 1 experience.  Note that I included the experience you get for dropping the egg, as well as the total experience you get for completing level 1.  Remember, <strong>Total = Dropping Egg + Level XP</strong>:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="57"></col>
<col width="50"></col>
<col width="79"></col>
<col width="75"></col>
<tbody>
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<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="57"><strong>XP / Egg</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="50"><strong>XP / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="79"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">1.6</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">1.07</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Inland Silverside</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">0.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">0.44</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">40</td>
<td align="right">120</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td align="right">12</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">75</td>
<td align="right">240</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">110</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">27</td>
<td align="right">135</td>
<td align="right">480</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Annularis Angelfish</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">160</td>
<td align="right">600</td>
<td align="right">0.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">17</td>
<td align="right">170</td>
<td align="right">720</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">220</td>
<td align="right">960</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">29</td>
<td align="right">290</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Damsel</td>
<td align="right">39</td>
<td align="right">390</td>
<td align="right">2160</td>
<td align="right">0.18</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td align="right">26</td>
<td align="right">52</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.05</td>
</tr>
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</table>
<p>As promised, here is a<a href="http://bit.ly/fishville_stats" target="_blank"> link to the Google Doc with all my tables and charts</a>.  Please post additional info, corrections, or data in the comments below.</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>:  I&#8217;ve now posted additional columns on Fishville:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/24/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-3/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 3</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Zynga addiction clearly knows no bounds.  Last week, Zynga launched a new game called Fishville, and clearly at this point I have no ability to resist any new Zynga game. Fishville has a deceptively simple frame:  you have a fish tank, and you buy fish eggs for it.  The fish hatch, you feed them, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1315&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Zynga addiction clearly knows no bounds.  Last week, Zynga launched a new game called Fishville, and clearly at this point I have no ability to resist any new Zynga game.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1316" title="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png?w=300&#038;h=179" alt="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" width="300" height="179" /></a>Fishville has a deceptively simple frame:  you have a fish tank, and you buy fish eggs for it.  The fish hatch, you feed them, and then when they are fully grown, you sell them for profit.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">What I&#8217;ve found most interesting about the game is the new dimensions they are exploring in the economics of the game.  Fishville adds a couple distinguishing twists versus Farmville or Café World:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Multiple Tanks. </strong>How many people wish they had more than one farm in Farmville?  In Fishville, Zynga has two types of expansion &#8211; the ability to put more fish in a single tank and the ability to buy new tanks.  This may not seem relevant from a structural standpoint &#8211; after all whether you add 20 fish to one tank or 10 to 2 tanks shouldn&#8217;t matter &#8211; but it should create a new dynamic around buying virtual goods to decorate different tanks.</li>
<li><strong>Harvest Levels. </strong>This is the real twist to the economics.  Fish grow up in stages, up to four levels.  The revenue in coins and the experience you get goes up linearly with each level.  So if you have a 4 hour fish, you can harvest them at 4 hours at Level 1, or 16 hours at Level 4.  You still have to feed them or they die (similar to withering crops in Farmville), but you don&#8217;t need to &#8220;replant&#8221;.</li>
</ol>
<p>The Harvest Levels have the most impact on the game economics.  In financial terms, each fish now has a fixed cost and a variable cost, as well as a fixed experience pay-off and variable experience pay-off.</p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s take the Mini Dart Goby, the first fish.</p>
<p>The Goby costs 7 coins for an egg.  That&#8217;s a fixed cost.  If you grow it to Level 1, you&#8217;ll get 18 coins, for a profit of 11 coins.  Easy, right?  Hold on.  If you wait until Level 4, you&#8217;ll get 72 coins over that same 7 coin cost, for a profit of 65 coins.</p>
<p>The fixed cost means that your &#8220;profitability&#8221; or &#8220;profit / minute&#8221; goes up the longer you wait to harvest.</p>
<p>Seems like a no-brainer to wait until Level 4?  Not so fast.</p>
<p>With Experience Points, the math works in reverse.</p>
<p>The Mini Dart Goby gives you 2 XP for dropping the egg.  At Level 1, you&#8217;ll get 8 XP, for a total of 10 XP.  But if you wait until Level 4, you&#8217;ll get 32 XP, for a total of 34 XP of the time period.  In this case, your &#8220;XP / Minute&#8221; goes down the longer you wait to harvest.</p>
<p>It gets even harder.</p>
<p>You can harvest a fish in-between levels&#8230; but you <strong>don&#8217;t get any credit</strong> for the time between levels.  So if you are half-way between levels, your &#8220;profit / minute&#8221; and &#8220;experience / minute&#8221; will be <strong>terrible</strong>.  In fact, the math says you need to harvest at level boundaries pretty closely.  (I think in a future blog post, I&#8217;ll graph this.)</p>
<p>For now, here are some tables I&#8217;ve made for the fish I have data on.  Unfortunately, this game is so new, I can&#8217;t find any guides online with data for all fish.  Special thanks to <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/erinhoffmann" target="_blank">Erin Hoffmann</a>, who serves as both data provider and my toughest competitor in Fishville.</p>
<p>The most interesting aspect to these tables is that while the profitability / minute rises for each level, Zynga has kept the fixed costs proportional enough that the ranking of the fish does not change significantly between 1 level or 4 levels.</p>
<p>Here is the profitability of different fish at Level 1:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="121"></col>
<col width="92"></col>
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<tr>
<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="109"><strong>Profit / One Level</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="121"><strong>Minutes / One Level</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">7.00</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">2.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">11.00</td>
<td align="right">5.00</td>
<td align="right">2.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">23.00</td>
<td align="right">15.00</td>
<td align="right">1.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">17.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">81.00</td>
<td align="right">480.00</td>
<td align="right">0.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">99.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
<td align="right">720.00</td>
<td align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">133.00</td>
<td align="right">1440.00</td>
<td align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here is the profitability of different fish at Level 4:</p>
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<col width="118"></col>
<col width="131"></col>
<col width="92"></col>
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<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="118"><strong>Profit / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="131"><strong>Minutes / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">43.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">3.58</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
<td align="right">20.00</td>
<td align="right">3.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">137.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">2.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">98.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.41</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">321.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">468.00</td>
<td align="right">1920.00</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">432.00</td>
<td align="right">2880.00</td>
<td align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">567.00</td>
<td align="right">3840.00</td>
<td align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">796.00</td>
<td align="right">5760.00</td>
<td align="right">0.14</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
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<p>Here is the experience productivity of different fish at Level 1:</p>
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<col width="105"></col>
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<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="109"><strong>XP / One Level</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="121"><strong>Min / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
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<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">5.00</td>
<td align="right">1.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
<td align="right">15.00</td>
<td align="right">1.07</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">20.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">75.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">135.00</td>
<td align="right">480.00</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
<td align="right">720.00</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">220.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">290.00</td>
<td align="right">1440.00</td>
<td align="right">0.20</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Here is the experience productivity of different fish at Level 4:</p>
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<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="446"><!--StartFragment--></p>
<col width="105"></col>
<col width="118"></col>
<col width="131"></col>
<col width="92"></col>
<tbody>
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<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="118"><strong>XP / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="131"><strong>Min / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">26.00</td>
<td align="right">20.00</td>
<td align="right">1.30</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">13.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">1.08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">52.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">0.87</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">68.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">255.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">459.00</td>
<td align="right">1920.00</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">629.00</td>
<td align="right">2880.00</td>
<td align="right">0.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">814.00</td>
<td align="right">3840.00</td>
<td align="right">0.21</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">1073.00</td>
<td align="right">5760.00</td>
<td align="right">0.19</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to help, I&#8217;m missing data for the following fish:</p>
<ul>
<li>Blue Damsel</li>
<li>Inland Silverside</li>
<li>Pajama Cardinal</li>
<li>Longnose Hawkfish</li>
<li>Annularis Angelfish</li>
<li>Blue Spot Grouper</li>
<li>Blue Hippo Tang</li>
<li>Bartlett Anthias</li>
</ul>
<p>For each, please leave a comment with:</p>
<ul>
<li>XP / Egg</li>
<li>Revenue / Level</li>
<li>XP / Level</li>
<li>Minutes / Level</li>
</ul>
<p>Hope this helps the new Fishville players out there.  Enjoy.</p>
<p><strong>Update (11/14/2009): </strong> New blog post coming tomorrow, with updated tables and new info.  Also, fixing the issue around the whole &#8220;Level 4/Adult&#8221; confusion, and publishing a Google Doc to help others benefit from the raw data.  I&#8217;m still finding that people are ignoring the XP from the dropping of the egg, and only focusing on the XP from harvesting, so I&#8217;ll update tables to make that more clear.</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>:  I&#8217;ve now posted additional columns on Fishville:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/16/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-2/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/24/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-3/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 3</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really haven&#8217;t had enough time to write the second post I had been planning on Buzz measurements and the profitability by unit time of different dishes.  So, instead, this week I&#8217;m posting updated tables for some of the new dishes that Zynga has rolled out.  (Still looking for an accurate breakdown of CP for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1312&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really haven&#8217;t had enough time to write the second post I had been planning on Buzz measurements and the profitability by unit time of different dishes.  So, instead, this week I&#8217;m posting updated tables for some of the new dishes that Zynga has rolled out.  (Still looking for an accurate breakdown of CP for Impossible Quiche, BTW.  I&#8217;m only at Level 25 myself&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>This is the second post in my Café World Economics series.  The first one is here:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Here are my Café World tables, updated for the three new dishes Zynga rolled out last week.</p>
<p>First, the table of dishes, sorted by total profit per day:</p>
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<tr>
<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">3985.0</td>
<td align="right">166.0</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">3785.0</td>
<td align="right">157.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">3580.0</td>
<td align="right">149.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">2730.0</td>
<td align="right">113.8</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here is the second table, dishes sorted by Café Points per Day:</p>
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<col width="132"></col>
<col span="2" width="75"></col>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>CP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>CP / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">403.0</td>
<td align="right">16.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">225.0</td>
<td align="right">9.4</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">221.3</td>
<td align="right">9.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>As per some of the comments, I&#8217;ve realized that there is an overhead in time for setting up a dish.  It&#8217;s likely small (15-20s), but still, that&#8217;s a material increase on a 5 minute dish.  I&#8217;ll provide that update in a future post.</p>
<p>In truth, I had hoped to have my first FishVille Economics post up by now.  Unfortunately, the little spat between Zynga &amp; Facebook seems to have precluded it for now.  Fishville has been down all day.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  New Café World Economics posts are available:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/03/21/cafe-world-economics-spiceonomics/" target="_blank">Café  World Economics: Spiceonomics</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zynga launched several new crops this week: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, and Acorn Squash, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there. So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP). For quick reference, here are the links to my first seven Farmville posts: The Personal Economics of Farmville The Personal Economics [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1297&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zynga launched several new crops this week: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, and Acorn Squash, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there.  So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP).</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>For quick reference, here are the links to my first seven Farmville posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are Almost Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/25/farmville-economics-flowers-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;ve updated my tables to include the new crops.  You&#8217;ll notice that none of the new crops are significantly differentiated by either experience or profit.</p>
<p>Please remember, all tables normalize the values for one square per day (24 hour day), and include the cost and experience involved with plowing the square per cycle.</p>
<p>Here are the crops, ranked by Profit / Day:</p>
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<col width="105"></col>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">183.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">177.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">176.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">170.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">166.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">164.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">163.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">120.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">116.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">104.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">100.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">67.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">59.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">30.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here are the crops ranked by Experience / Day:</p>
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<col width="58"></col>
<col width="85"></col>
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<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="58"><strong>XP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="85"><strong>Cycle (Hours)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">4.50</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Here are the crops ranked by Profit + Experience / Day (using 15 coins for XP value):</p>
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<col width="175"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">342.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">284.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">267.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">250.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">242.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">236.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">235.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">226.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">215.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">204.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">200.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">160.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">139.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">139.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">127.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">114.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">82.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">52.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
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<p>And here are the crops by Risk Adjusted Profit / Day:</p>
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<td width="93" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="157"><strong>Risk-Adjusted Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="148"><strong>Risk of Complete Default</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">226.53</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">217.37</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">206.37</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">201.57</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">195.82</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">185.57</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">181.47</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">165.80</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">154.22</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">153.58</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">153.35</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">142.52</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">135.58</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">130.15</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">126.03</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">125.98</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">123.93</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">122.29</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">122.23</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">117.11</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">115.57</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">115.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.40</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.27</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">109.43</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">107.05</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">99.87</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">91.44</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">80.30</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">79.19</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">78.89</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">77.22</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">74.87</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">72.46</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">72.37</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">68.82</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">68.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">67.61</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">60.71</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">60.47</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">56.35</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">52.43</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">38.19</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
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</table>
<p>Enjoy.  Happy Farming.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose it was inevitable.  There comes a point when you have reached a level of wealth in Farmville where you can buy anything (even the Villa).  A point when you have enough experience that you can plant any crop. It&#8217;s natural at that point for the eye to wander, seeking out the next great [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1288&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it was inevitable.  There comes a point when you have reached a level of wealth in Farmville where you can buy anything (even the Villa).  A point when you have enough experience that you can plant any crop.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s natural at that point for the eye to wander, seeking out the next great Zynga game.  And for me, that happened a little over a week ago when I decided to take the plunge into Cafe World.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Cafe World has a number of elements that I had originally suggested for Farmville:  animated sims, shorter time spans, more functional enhancements.  It&#8217;s a much more complicated simulation, and as a result, it took me quite a bit longer to get the hang of it.</p>
<p>There are a few very interesting new aspects to the game that make modeling the economics difficult.  Expect future posts from me on how to model &#8220;The Buzz Factor&#8221;, which affects the velocity that your food is consumed over time, and how to model &#8220;Spoilage&#8221;, which is similar to Farmville but more absolute.</p>
<p>A couple quick tips, for the fans out there:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your Buzz Rating drops by 1.0 for every customer who comes in and leaves without food.  The minimum is 5.0, the maximum is 105.0.  There are two ways to preserve it, however.  First, when you run out of food, remove the doors on your restaurant.  This will close the cafe, and keep your Buzz rating flat.  Second, your buzz rating will not fall if you are not actually running the game.  That means it&#8217;s safe to run out of food, as long as you aren&#8217;t watching&#8230;</li>
<li>If you block your waiter(s) in, then they will serve the food infinitely fast.  This is just like the Farmer trick from Farmville.  I highly recommend doing this with the three serving stations against a corner.  One warning &#8211; for this to work, you need to give the waiter/waitress *two* squares of freedom.  With just one, it doesn&#8217;t seem to work.</li>
</ul>
<p>To get things started, however, I thought I&#8217;d just run the simple numbers on profitability and experience for each recipe.  I found elements of this information on various posts across the web.  (Here is one from <a href="http://www.cafeworldstrategy.com/2009/10/cafe-world-recipe-guide-strategy-and.html" target="_blank">Cafe World Strategy</a>.  Here is another from <a href="http://www.cyberanto.com/2009/10/cafe-world-dishes/" target="_blank">Cyberanto</a>.  This one was the best, from <a href="http://www.silvy-ariyanti.com/games/cook-your-best-dishes-on-cafe-world-game-facebook/" target="_blank">Simple Think</a>.)  Unfortunately, no one seems to know the Café Points experience breakdown between preparing &amp; serving the Impossible Quiche&#8230; I guess no one is at that level yet. (I had to guess in my table).</p>
<p>First, profitability.  Each dish below is normalized as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li>All values are normalized for a 24 hours day</li>
<li>A &#8220;cycle&#8221; is based on cooking time, but includes the cost &amp; cafe points for cleaning the oven once</li>
<li>I assume an infinitely fast player for cleaning/preparing/serving</li>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
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<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">3255.0</td>
<td align="right">135.6</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
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<p>The next table shows the same information, but for Café Points instead of profit.  This is more useful if your primary concern is &#8220;leveling up&#8221;.</p>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>CP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="80"><strong>CP / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<p>Two things seem clear to me from these tables:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Overstuffed Peppers</strong> is the dish to beat.  12 hours cooking time means you don&#8217;t have to babysit the game endlessly.  One of the most profitable, and does a fair job of building experience.</li>
<li><strong>Fast Food is King. </strong> If you have the patience and time, serving burgers can&#8217;t be beat.  All the numbers are incredibly weighted towards the foods with short cycles.  After all, when you can literally serve something 288 times in a single day, that&#8217;s a huge multiplier.</li>
</ol>
<p>In future posts, I&#8217;ll try to rebalance these numbers across risk of spoilage and personal time value, to bring some sense to the madness.  I can tell already, however, that the Overstuffed Peppers is going to be the best balance of time &amp; profit.  Of course, my cafe is still dawdling at Level 14&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  New Café World Economics posts are available:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a>﻿﻿</li>
<li>﻿﻿<a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/03/21/cafe-world-economics-spiceonomics/" target="_blank">Café  World Economics: Spiceonomics</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zynga launched several new crops this week in the form of cut flowers, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there.  So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP). For quick reference, here are the links to my first six Farmville posts: The Personal Economics of Farmville The Personal Economics [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1286&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zynga launched several new crops this week in the form of cut flowers, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there.  So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP).</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>For quick reference, here are the links to my first six Farmville posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are Almost Genius</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;ve updated my tables to include both Sweet Seeds and the new cut flowers.  You&#8217;ll notice that, as per my last post, Sweets Seeds really aren&#8217;t as good as they should be.  At least, it&#8217;s not clear to me why Super Berries were so much better.</p>
<p>Please remember, all tables normalize the values for one square per day (24 hour day), and include the cost and experience involved with plowing the square per cycle.</p>
<p>Here are the crops, ranked by Profit / Day:</p>
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<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">183.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">177.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">176.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">170.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">166.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">164.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">116.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">104.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">100.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">59.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">30.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
</table>
<p>Here are the crops ranked by Experience per Day:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="58"></col>
<col width="85"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="58"><strong>XP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="85"><strong>Cycle (Hours)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">4.50</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here are the crops ranked by a sum of profit and experience per day (see previous posts for why I ascribe 15 coins to the value of one point of experience):</p>
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<col width="75"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">342.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">284.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">267.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">250.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">242.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">236.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">226.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">215.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">204.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">200.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">160.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">139.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">127.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">114.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">82.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">52.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></p>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>And finally, the most important table: Risk Adjusted Profitability.  This takes into account the risk of spoilage and the time it takes for each crop to harvest.  I&#8217;ve found this to be the best table to answer the question of &#8220;what should you plant&#8221;:</p>
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<col width="75"></col>
<col width="157"></col>
<col width="148"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="157"><strong>Risk-Adjusted Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="148"><strong>Risk of Complete Default</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">226.53</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">217.37</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">206.37</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">201.57</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">195.82</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">185.57</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">181.47</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">165.80</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">154.22</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">153.58</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">153.35</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">142.52</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">135.58</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">130.15</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">126.03</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">125.98</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">123.93</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">117.11</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">115.57</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">115.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.40</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.27</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">109.43</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">107.05</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">99.87</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">91.44</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">80.30</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">79.19</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">78.89</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">77.22</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">74.87</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">72.46</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">68.82</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">68.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">67.61</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">60.71</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">60.47</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">56.35</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">52.43</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">38.19</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></p>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>Stay tuned for my next post, my very first on Café World, my new Zynga addiction.  Very different simulation &amp; economics, and should be good for a few interesting analytical posts.</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted follow-on posts about Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s clear that my addiction to spreadsheets and Farmville knows no bounds, so as predicted, here is my fifth post on the topic. Here are the quick links to my first four posts: The Personal Economics of Farmville The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2 More Farmville Economics Farmville Economics: What Price Experience? The wizards [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1261&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:left;">It&#8217;s clear that my addiction to spreadsheets and Farmville knows no bounds, so as predicted, here is my fifth post on the topic.</p>
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<p>Here are the quick links to my first four posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
</ul>
<p>The wizards at Zynga have been busy, and with regular updates every week (or even more frequently), a large number of new crops have been introduced.  As the comments on my other posts have become quite demanding, here are two of my original tables, updated for all the new crops (as of September 20, 2009):</p>
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<tbody>
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<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">183.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">177.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">176.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">170.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onion</td>
<td align="right">166.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">116.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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<p><em><strong>Assumptions</strong>: All numbers are normalized for one planting square per day, and assume a &#8220;perfect&#8221; farmer who can operate all 24 hours of a single day.  It&#8217;s assumed that you will need to harvest, plow, and plant every cycle for a given crop.<br />
</em></p>
<p>As it turns out, many times players are optimizing for experience per day, rather than for profit.  As a result, here is an updated table that shows experience per crop, with the same assumptions:</p>
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<table style="border-collapse:collapse;height:476px;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="252"><!--StartFragment--><br />
<col width="109"></col>
<col width="58"></col>
<col width="85"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="58"><strong>XP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="85"><strong>Cycle (Hours)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">4.50</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
</table>
<p>It&#8217;s fairly obvious from the numbers above that crops that can be planted and harvested multiple times per day have a significant advantage.  This advantage is largely due to the +1 XP you get from plowing a square, and the multiple turns per day.  While the longer duration crops have higher experience, they don&#8217;t generate enough experience to match the multiple cycles of crops like the berries, or the 8-hour crops like Tomatoes.  Of course, this <strong>ignores the time value of money</strong>, the primary topic of <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">my first blog post on Farmville Economics</a>.</p>
<p>It seems as if Zynga has been doing their homework when building out their technology tree with additional crops.  Using my 15 coin / XP estimate, the table combining the value by coins and experience is dominated by the new crops:</p>
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<table style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="180"><!--StartFragment--><br />
<col width="75"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">342.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">267.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">250.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">242.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">236.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">226.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">215.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">200.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">139.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
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<p>The title of this blog post, however, is <strong>Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</strong>.  One of my orginal concerns was that measures of profitability were not properly taking into account the amount of risk that each crop incorporated.</p>
<p>When you plant a crop in Farmville, it grows for an allotted time.  During that time, you cannot harvest the crop, nor can you recover your capital.  It&#8217;s completely illiquid.  After that time period, you have an equivalent time period (100% of the growing time) to harvest the crop.  At that point, your investment is liquid and recoverable.  After the harvest time has expired, over the next equivalent time period (between 100% and 200% of the growing time), your crops will wither square-by-square, until none are left.</p>
<p>As a result, a crop that yields a few more coins of profit, but that involves an up-front investment of fifty coins, may not actually be worth the risk of withering.</p>
<p>In case you think I&#8217;m being melodramatic, it&#8217;s a very common problem.  People invest all of the wealth into planting crops, get distracted or misunderstand the rules, and then end up with withered crops and no money left over to re-plant.  They have to depend on &#8220;lotteries&#8221; and &#8220;helping neighbors&#8221; to recapitalize.  (In fact many don&#8217;t, which may be a problem Zynga needs to monitor.)</p>
<p>So how do we model risk-adjusted profitability?</p>
<p>In typical financial modeling, you would have a &#8220;cost of capital&#8221; &#8211; namely a borrowing rate that would be your cost of money over a period of time.  However, for this analysis, it didn&#8217;t seem appropriate &#8211; maybe I&#8217;ll revisit sometime in the future.</p>
<p>To model the Farmville risk, I tried to literally focus on the following facts:</p>
<ol>
<li>How much capital (coins) up front you risk by planting one square?</li>
<li>What is the risk that you won&#8217;t be available during the harvest time?</li>
<li>Probability of harvest + Probability of wither = 100%</li>
<li>Multiply the profits per cycle with the probability of harvest</li>
<li>Normalize to a risk-adjusted profit per day</li>
</ol>
<p>In order to model #2, I&#8217;ve used the following assumption: you are expected to check Farmville once every 24 hours.  You can replace this with your own number, but given that Farmville has 15M+ active daily users, this assumption seems fair.</p>
<p>So, assuming any hour is the same as any other (on average), there is a 1/24 probability that you will be able to check Farmville in a given hour.  24 * 1/24 = 100%</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also assuming that your ability to check on a crop in any given hour is independent of the ability to check any other hour.  This keeps the probability calculations simple.</p>
<p>This means that for shorter lived crops, there is real default risk:</p>
<ul>
<li>There is a 23/24 chance in any hour that you will not check on the crop.</li>
<li>This means, for a 4-hour crop, there is a 23^4/24^4 = 279841 / 331776 = 84.3% chance that you&#8217;ll miss checking on the crop during harvest time for full profit.</li>
<li>This means, for a 4-hour crop, there is an 84.3% chance you&#8217;ll miss the withering time, where you&#8217;ll receive partial profit.  (I&#8217;m assuming a linear decay rate)</li>
<li>This results in a default rate of 71.1% on a four-hour crop.</li>
</ul>
<p>Using calculations similar to those above, I generated an expected profit per cycle.  I&#8217;ve regenerated the table (ignoring experience) for the crops, and ranked them by risk-adjusted profitability:</p>
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<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="157"><strong>Risk-Adjusted Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="148"><strong>Risk of Complete Default</strong></td>
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<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">226.53</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">217.37</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">206.37</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">201.57</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">185.57</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">181.47</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">154.22</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">153.35</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">142.52</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">135.58</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">130.15</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">126.03</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">125.98</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">123.93</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">117.11</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">115.57</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">115.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.40</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.27</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">99.87</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">91.44</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">80.30</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">79.19</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">78.89</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">77.22</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">74.87</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">72.46</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">68.82</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">67.61</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">60.71</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">60.47</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">56.35</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">52.43</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">38.19</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
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<p>Now, I&#8217;ve made quite a few simplifying assumptions here, so don&#8217;t confuse this with a PhD thesis in Farmville Economics.  But it&#8217;s amazing to me how this list of crops, more than any other table, best reflects my own internal preferences on what to plant.  Maybe that&#8217;s because the &#8220;once a day&#8221; estimate of average availability best fits my own time table during the week.</p>
<p>Another way of revising this estimate is to look at the &#8220;risk of complete default&#8221; as highly correlated with the &#8220;stress level&#8221; you feel when you plant a given crop.  Super Berries are awesome, but there is no question that when I plant them, I am hyper-aware of the need to check on them within a 2 hour window to harvest my profits.</p>
<p>Definitely an interesting lens on the topic of profitability.  Please feel free to share alternative views on how to evaluate the risk-adjusted profitability of Farmville crops here in the comments.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  Here are additional posts on Farmville Economics, published after this one:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the fact that some people find my recent preoccupation with Farmville amusing, the traffic to my original series of blog posts on the Personal Economics of Farmville has been extremely high.  This isn&#8217;t surprising given the incoming links from the Zynga Blog and the Wall Street Journal. Here are the quick links to my [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1254&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the fact that <a href="http://twitter.com/ikai/status/3882427341" target="_blank">some people find my recent preoccupation with Farmville amusing</a>, the traffic to my original series of blog posts on the Personal Economics of Farmville has been extremely high.  This isn&#8217;t surprising given the incoming links from <a href="http://zblog.zynga.com/?p=981" target="_blank">the Zynga Blog</a> and <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/08/31/app-watch-facebooks-11-million-farmers/" target="_blank">the Wall Street Journal</a>.</p>
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<p>Here are the quick links to my first three posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Well everyone knows that bloggers can&#8217;t resist traffic, so as a result, I thought I&#8217;d add a fourth post to the series, highlighting some of the insights into the economic value of Farmville experience points.</p>
<p>It all started with the analysis I presented in the second post, which modified the profitability matrix for each Farmville crop by adding an economic value for Experience.  Here is a snippet:</p>
<blockquote><p>The question is, how do you blend the value of experience and coins? The truth is, the function for valuing experience is probably too complicated to get right.</p>
<p>However, I did find a simplistic proxy.  1 experience point = 15 coins.</p>
<p>Why? Well, it turns out you can just sit there, plow a square for 15 coins, and get 1 experience point.  You can then delete the square and do it again.  So at least, in theory, you can “buy” an infinite supply of experience points for 15 coins each.</p></blockquote>
<p>Boy, did that start a firestorm.  It turns out, there is a well-worn analysis that says that Farmville experience is actually worth 10 coins.  Why?  If you plow a square of land (-15 coins, +1 XP) and plant soybeans (-15 coins, +2 XP) and then delete, you spend a total of 30 coins, and you get +3 XP.  Thus 30/3 = 10 coins / XP.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a more complicated series, and it ignores the liquidity issue of requiring the purchase of 3 XP at a time, not 1 XP, but it&#8217;s a pretty good proxy for the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; way to buy experience.</p>
<p>The more I thought about this, however, the more dissatisfied I became with the answer.  The reason?  It ignores the incredible time cost of those set of actions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Click the plow tool.</li>
<li>Click the square.</li>
<li>Click the market tool</li>
<li>Navigate dialog, click soybeans.</li>
<li>Click the square</li>
<li>Click delete tool</li>
<li>Click the square</li>
<li>Select &#8220;Accept&#8221; from the &#8220;Are you sure&#8221; dialog</li>
</ul>
<p>Ugh.  For 3XP.  Can you imagine trying to get 4500 XP this way?  I can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As a result, I&#8217;m even going to invalidate my original 15 coin / XP assumption.  In fact, you&#8217;ll notice that for truly painless actions, like buying a building, the number of XP gained is typically 1/100 the price of the item.  For example, when you pay 250,000 coins for a log cabin, you also get 2500 XP.</p>
<p>I think this effectively bounds the range of the value of XP.  Clearly, it&#8217;s worth more than 1/100 of a coin, because you ALSO get the log cabin, which is a pretty snazzy farm improvement.  It&#8217;s also clearly more than 1/10, because the time cost of that process is clearly extracting value beyond the coins.</p>
<p>So, value of XP is:</p>
<p><strong>0.01 coins &lt; 1 XP &lt; 0.1 coins</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing the value of XP is close to 20 coins.  A haybale is only 100 coins, and it gives you 5 XP.  Since a haybale is a pretty negligible improvement, you can assume that most of the price is actually for XP.  So, that would bound the range even tighter:</p>
<p><strong>0.2 coins &lt; 1 XP &lt; 0.1 coins</strong></p>
<p>Now, I know what you are going to say: &#8220;You can sell the haybale for 5 coins, making it even cheaper!&#8221;.  The problem there is that now you have to go through the delete process, with the confirmation dialog.  Ugh.   I&#8217;m trying to avoid that work.</p>
<p>In fact, my analysis is still missing a &#8220;cost&#8221; for the implicit clutter a haybale creates on your farm.  You have a limited amount of space, so the &#8220;price&#8221; of a haybale is really:</p>
<p><strong>Cost of haybale = 100 coins + MIN((time cost to delete haybale &#8211; 5 coins), opportunity cost of lost 1/16 of a square of land)</strong></p>
<p>Maybe in a future post I&#8217;ll explore the opportunity cost of clutter in more detail.  It&#8217;s certainly the thing that would prevent you from literally filling your field with haybales to buy experience.  (Interestingly, Farmville just rolled out an improvement today that lets you buy haybales continuously!)</p>
<p>Finally, I have to share a tip that was posted on one of my earlier articles that has represented the single largest improvement in my Farmville quality of life:</p>
<p><strong>If you &#8220;fence in&#8221; your farmer, then Farmville will harvest, plow, seed a square immediately, without waiting for the farmer to walk to it.</strong></p>
<p>I was skeptical of this advice at first, but I tried it this weekend, and it speeds planting a large farm by AT LEAST 50%.  I use ducks to &#8220;fence in my farmer&#8221;.  I keep several in a box at the edge of my farm, and first thing I do is walk the farmer into the box.  I then move one duck to close the trap, and boom, 15 minutes added back to my life.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your mileage may vary.  Enjoy.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: I&#8217;ve posted the following new articles on Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  The traffic from the first two blog posts on Farmville has been high.  In fact, the Zynga blog even picked up the two articles.  Very flattering. I was all set to write a post tonight on the economics of trees in Farmville&#8230; but then I caught Pablo&#8217;s post on &#8220;Treeconomics&#8221;. Brilliant.  Leveraging some of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1244&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  The traffic from the first two blog posts on Farmville has been high.  In fact, <a href="http://zblog.zynga.com/?p=981" target="_blank">the Zynga blog even picked up the two articles</a>.  Very flattering.</p>
<p>I was all set to write a post tonight on the economics of trees in Farmville&#8230; but then I caught <a href="http://pablopaniagua.com/2009/08/25/farmville-treeconomics" target="_blank">Pablo&#8217;s post on &#8220;Treeconomics&#8221;.</a></p>
<p>Brilliant.  Leveraging some of the work I had done, he does a evaluation of a 16-square of trees in terms of &#8220;yield&#8221; vs. crops.  Very interesting, confirming that a 16-square of Date trees can compare very favorably to almost everything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to have to think about this a bit more &#8211; I want to build a model where I incorporate a few additional factors:</p>
<ul>
<li>The &#8220;down payment&#8221; for trees.</li>
<li>The freedom to never have to &#8220;plow&#8221; or &#8220;plant&#8221; again. (value of time)</li>
<li>The freedom from working capital for seeds on an ongoing basis.</li>
<li>The removal of &#8220;withering risk&#8221;.  Crops wither after 20% of their growing time, yielding a complete loss of the capital to plow &amp; plant.  Trees never wither.</li>
<li>The lack of experience points from trees</li>
<li>Incorporate the data from all the trees, not just the ones you can buy.</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;ll still write a follow up here, but tonight there is no need.  Check out this table from Pablo as  sample:</p>
<table style="border-collapse:collapse;width:376pt;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="500">
<col style="width:84pt;" width="112"></col>
<col style="width:43pt;" width="57"></col>
<col style="width:42pt;" span="2" width="56"></col>
<col style="width:34pt;" width="45"></col>
<col style="width:47pt;" width="62"></col>
<col style="width:48pt;" width="64"></col>
<col style="width:36pt;" width="48"></col>
<tbody>
<tr style="height:27.75pt;text-align:center;">
<td style="height:27.75pt;width:84pt;" width="112" height="37"></td>
<td style="width:43pt;" width="57"></td>
<td style="width:42pt;" width="56"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Cost</span></td>
<td style="width:42pt;" width="56"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Revenue/Harvest</span></td>
<td style="width:34pt;" width="45"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Days to Harvest</span></td>
<td style="width:47pt;" width="62"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Daily Revenue</span></strong></td>
<td style="width:48pt;" width="64"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Daily Rev/ Invested $</span></td>
<td style="width:36pt;" width="48"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Days to Payback</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Date</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$800.0</td>
<td align="right">$69.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$23.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.88%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Lime</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$750.0</td>
<td align="right">$75.0</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$15.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.00%</td>
<td align="right">50</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Lemon</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$475.0</td>
<td align="right">$41.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$13.67</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.88%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Peach</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$500.0</td>
<td align="right">$47.0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$11.75</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.35%</td>
<td align="right">43</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Fig</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$350.0</td>
<td align="right">$33.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$11.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">3.14%</td>
<td align="right">32</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Plum</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$350.0</td>
<td align="right">$30.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$10.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.86%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Orange</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$425.0</td>
<td align="right">$40.0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$10.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.35%</td>
<td align="right">43</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Apple</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$325.0</td>
<td align="right">$28.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$9.33</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.87%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Cherry</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$225.0</td>
<td align="right">$18.0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$9.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">4.00%</td>
<td align="right">25</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>And this one:</p>
<table style="border-collapse:collapse;width:322pt;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="428">
<col style="width:84pt;" width="112"></col>
<col style="width:51pt;" width="68"></col>
<col style="width:50pt;" width="66"></col>
<col style="width:47pt;" width="63"></col>
<col style="width:43pt;" width="57"></col>
<col style="width:47pt;" width="62"></col>
<tbody>
<tr style="height:36pt;">
<td style="height:36pt;width:84pt;" width="112" height="48"></td>
<td style="width:51pt;text-align:center;" width="68"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Daily Profit</span></td>
<td style="width:50pt;text-align:center;" width="66"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Total Profit</span></td>
<td style="width:47pt;text-align:center;" width="63"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Initial investment</span></td>
<td style="width:43pt;text-align:center;" width="57"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Residual Value</span></td>
<td style="width:47pt;text-align:center;" width="62"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Profit</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Super Berries</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$900.0</td>
<td align="right">$81,000.0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$81,000.0</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Date tree square</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$368.0</td>
<td align="right">$33,120.0</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$12,800</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$640.0</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$20,960.0 </strong></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Tomatoes</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$174.0</td>
<td align="right">$15,660.0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$15,660.0</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Raspberries</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$132.0</td>
<td align="right">$11,880.0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$11,880.0</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>Too cool.</p>
<p>Now go <a href="http://pablopaniagua.com/2009/08/25/farmville-treeconomics" target="_blank">read it</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted additional articles on Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
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		<title>The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, I wrote a fairly popular post about the personal economics of Farmville, the extremely popular Facebook game by Zynga.  There were enough comments and emails about the original post, I decided to write a quick follow-up to cover some of the most common ideas and concerns. I was also able to get the data [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1234&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, I wrote a fairly popular post about the <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">personal economics of Farmville</a>, the extremely popular Facebook game by Zynga.  There were enough comments and emails about the original post, I decided to write a quick follow-up to cover some of the most common ideas and concerns.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&#038;h=286" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="374" height="286" /></a></p>
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<p>I was also able to get the data on Red Wheat and Yellow Mellon, which were missing from my original post.  Also, this weekend saw the (temporary?) advent of &#8220;Super Berries&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve updated my original table here, showing the rank of all Farmville crops based on net profit per day per square.  Let&#8217;s just say there is a reason Super Berries are, well, super:</p>
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<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
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<p style="text-align:left;">The most interesting questions and comments came from <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/akumar2" target="_blank">Abhi Kumar</a>, product manager for Farmville at Zynga.  Needless to say, it was extremely flattering to have Abhi interested in my post, and to hear his thoughts on the topic.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">The first point Abhi raised was interesting.  The question was, how would I factor experience into these calculations.  Clearly, experience is crucial to the game in several regards:</p>
<ul>
<li>It&#8217;s crucial for rising in the technology tree, to get access to new crops, tools, and other beneficial items.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s a basic game mechanic that drives people to see their &#8220;score&#8221; rise.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s public to your neighbors.  As a social game, this adds an additional game mechanic, similar to a leaderboard, that encourages you to boost your score.</li>
</ul>
<p>In order to calculate the experience for each crop, I took the experience that each crop delivers per cycle, added one experience point per cycle for re-plowing, and then normalized the values for a single day (24 hours) and a single square.</p>
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<col width="156"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
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<tr>
<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Experience / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td width="105" align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
</tr>
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<p>Not surprisingly, the quick cycle-time of the berries dominates this table.</p>
<p>The question is, how do you blend the value of experience and coins? The truth is, the function for valuing experience is probably too complicated to get right.</p>
<p>However, I did find a simplistic proxy.  1 experience point = 15 coins.</p>
<p>Why? Well, it turns out you can just sit there, plow a square for 15 coins, and get 1 experience point.  You can then delete the square and do it again.  So at least, in theory, you can &#8220;buy&#8221; an infinite supply of experience points for 15 coins each.</p>
<p>When you include experience at this price, the rank of the crops changes significantly from the original &#8220;coins only&#8221; version of the most profitable crops:</p>
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<col width="156"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td width="105" align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">195.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
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<p>In many ways, this final table is a more satisfying answer on what to plant, since it gives a fairly balanced view across coins (which are needed to buy seeds, tools, and other items) and experience (which is also needed to raise your level to buy seeds, tools, and other items).</p>
<p>Clearly, this analysis is very sensitive to the value of an experience point.  The more value you ascribe to experience, the more the compound table begins to resemble the experience-only version.</p>
<p>As part of my original post, I had run some analysis that suggested that if you value the time that it requires to check on your crops, harvest them, and re-plow &amp; plant, then you might get a different order.  I&#8217;ve now updated the chart to include the three crops that I didn&#8217;t have yesterday.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville_economics_updated.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1235" style="border:0 none;" title="Farmville_Economics_Updated" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville_economics_updated.png?w=400&#038;h=272" alt="Farmville_Economics_Updated" width="400" height="272" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em>click to see the enlarged chart graphic</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Based on the addition of the new crops, the top five crops in terms of their value in $ US / hour are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Yellow Mellon</li>
<li>Broccoli</li>
<li>Red Wheat</li>
<li>Corn</li>
<li>Watermelon</li>
</ol>
<p>All of the values are still well below $1 / hour.</p>
<p>I re-ran these numbers utilizing the experience points.  While they did shift the numbers to the right, they didn&#8217;t alter the ranking significantly.  This is likely because the cost in time (15 minutes) for each cycle and the high conversion rate (1500 coins / $1 US) means that the time cost of checking dwarfs the incremental value of the experience per cycle.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why you can see that one wacky line, Super Berries, which starts so high it&#8217;s off the chart, but crashes down under the weight of 12 cycle refreshes per day.</p>
<p>A couple people specifically wanted to see this analysis taking into account the new Tractor, which speeds plowing by up to 4x (although you need to buy fuel).  Since I don&#8217;t have a Tractor yet (working on it), I estimated what would happen if a cycle plow/plant took only 5 minutes instead of 15.  Here is the updated chart:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville-economics-updated-tractor.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1236" style="border:0 none;" title="Farmville Economics Updated Tractor" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville-economics-updated-tractor.png?w=400&#038;h=272" alt="Farmville Economics Updated Tractor" width="400" height="272" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em>click to see the enlarged chart graphic</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">For those of you playing at home, sorry to disappoint.  It turns out that dropping the time it takes does shift the value per hour out almost linearly.  You&#8217;ll note that in this chart, now the equivalent value for Yellow Mellon is over $2.62 / hour.  The order of the most valuable crops, however, does not change, because even five minutes dominates with such a high US $ to Farmville coin exchange rate.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Abhi did make one last point that I agree with completely.  The primary value of the game is not the coins you make.  (In fact, since you can&#8217;t really convert coins back to dollars, they are arguably worthless.)  The value is the fun and enjoyment you get from the time spent.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">In fact, I could theorize that if you normally bill $50/hour for your time, the delta between your normal rate and the amount you are making with Farmville crops shows just how much you value playing Farmville.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Hope this post was as interesting to folks as the last.  I&#8217;ve got to go harvest some Super Berries&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted additional articles on Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been playing Farmville, a social video game by Zynga, over the past week, and I have to say that I&#8217;m extremely impressed.  It&#8217;s a very simple simulation game, with well integrated social aspects to promote virality, a good technology tree, and clever virtual goods integration. If you&#8217;ve played the game (and at this point, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1224&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been playing Farmville, a social video game by Zynga, over the past week, and I have to say that I&#8217;m extremely impressed.  It&#8217;s a very simple simulation game, with well integrated social aspects to promote virality, a good technology tree, and clever virtual goods integration.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">If you&#8217;ve played the game (and at this point, approximately 9 million people have), then you are likely already familiar with the primary economics of the game.  As a farmer, you have a certain number of plots.  It costs money (coins) to plow a plot and plant seeds.  Different crops take different amounts of time to grow, and are worth different amounts at harvest.  Quite simply, the question is:</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Which crops should you plant?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Since I do love an excuse to crack open Excel, I built a simple model that tells you what crops are the &#8220;most valuable&#8221; to plant.  My model was simple:</p>
<ul>
<li>Revenue is just the value of the crop at harvest</li>
<li>Cost is the cost of the seeds + the cost to plow the square</li>
</ul>
<p>In order to compare crops, I had to normalize the values:</p>
<ul>
<li>Normalized all revenue and costs to &#8220;one square&#8221;</li>
<li>Normalized all revenue and costs to &#8220;one day&#8221;, namely 24 hours</li>
</ul>
<p>Thus a crop like Strawberries, which takes 4 hours to grow, can be theoretically planted 6 times in a single day.  Eggplant, which takes 2 days to grow, can be planted 0.5 times in a single day.</p>
<p>This model gives you the following simple table as output, ranked by &#8220;coins per square per day&#8221;:</p>
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<table style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="231"><!--StartFragment--></p>
<col width="156"></col>
<col width="75"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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<p><em>(Note: I still haven&#8217;t gotten the revenue and cycle time for the new crops, Red Wheat and Yellow Mellon)</em></p>
<p>Most of the <a href="http://gameolosophy.com/games/farmville-the-unofficial-strategy-guide/" target="_blank">strategy guides</a> that I&#8217;ve found across the web have basically gone just this far.</p>
<p>The problem with this model, however, is pretty obvious:</p>
<p><strong>It assumes that your time has no value!</strong></p>
<p>Listen, Raspberries might be #6 on this list, but you have to actually harvest and replant 12 times per day! (It&#8217;s a two-hour crop).  That only seems reasonable if you truly value your time at $0.  Theoretically, we should give some non-zero value to the time it takes to replant, and see how it affects the rankings.</p>
<p>To do this, I changed the model based on the following assumptions:</p>
<ul>
<li>It takes roughly 15 minutes to replant your farm with a crop</li>
<li>1500 Farmville coins are worth $1 (which is what Zynga charges to buy coins with PayPal or your credit card).</li>
</ul>
<p>I then graphed out the ranking of the crops on a spectrum from $0.00 / hour value for your time, all the way to $1.00 / hour.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">As you can tell from the range, the bad news is that even the best crop flips to being &#8220;negative value&#8221; per day at a monetary value of approximately $0.70 / hour.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville_economics3.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1231" style="border:0 none;" title="Farmville_Economics" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville_economics3.png?w=400&#038;h=272" alt="Farmville_Economics" width="400" height="272" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em>click the image to see enlarged verson</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">This graph paints a very different picture.  If you rank crops by what hourly wage &#8220;zeroes them out&#8221; in value, you find that actually, your top three crops should be:</p>
<ol>
<li>Broccoli ($0.69 / hour)</li>
<li>Corn ($0.57 / hour)</li>
<li>Watermelon ($0.54 / hour)</li>
</ol>
<p>If you accept the idea that 1500 Farmville coins is worth $1 (which is a bit of a stretch since you can&#8217;t convert back to dollars&#8230;), then these are the crops that pay you the best &#8220;hourly wage&#8221; for your time.</p>
<p>There are a few things I&#8217;ve left out here:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Trees / Animals. </strong>I haven&#8217;t run these numbers for trees or animals, but it would be trivial to do so.</li>
<li><strong>Working capital. </strong> These crops require different amounts of liquid cash in your Farmville account.  That capital theoretically has a cost, but I didn&#8217;t model it.</li>
<li><strong>Experience. </strong> Some people are playing for experience points, not coins.  Ignored here.</li>
<li><strong>Capital Risk.</strong> The different crops have different windows of time to harvest before your revenue goes to zero and your crops wither.  This analysis assumes a &#8220;perfect farmer&#8221;.</li>
</ul>
<p>If you find this model interesting or useful, would love to see links back here from anyone who pursues any of these different issues.</p>
<p>Of course, that assumes that there is someone else out there twisted enough to spend time analyzing the personal economics of Farmville&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted several follow-on posts about Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
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		<title>Once again, the web is safe for &#8220;adamnash&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just in case you aren&#8217;t one of the 225 million Facebook users who received a notification, tonight at 12:01 AM EST (9:01 PM local time), Facebook decided to launch a massive &#8220;first-come, first serve&#8221; claim on usernames (or handles) on Facebook. You might be wondering why this is big deal, since these have existed on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1185&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in case you aren&#8217;t one of the 225 million Facebook users who received a notification, tonight at 12:01 AM EST (9:01 PM local time), Facebook decided to launch a massive &#8220;first-come, first serve&#8221; claim on usernames (or handles) on Facebook.</p>
<p>You might be wondering why this is big deal, since these have existed on every other site for years.</p>
<p>Well, the reason is because this is Facebook, and ironically because they waiting this long to launch handles, it&#8217;s now moved from part of the new-user experience to a huge virtual geek battle for your name.  (if you want yours, go to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/username" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/username</a>)</p>
<p>I, of course, claimed &#8220;adamnash&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not very creative, I know.  When I chose my first username, freshman year at Stanford, I picked a nickname I had in high school.  (To this day, the wonders of the web have preserved old Usenet posting from under than handle&#8230; embarrassing.)  Thankfully, when you declare Computer Science as your major at Stanford, you get a virtual second chance &#8211; your Xenon address.</p>
<p>With a full name that fits in an old-style unix handle of 8 characters, it seemed too obvious.</p>
<p>I am <strong>adamnash</strong>.</p>
<p>These days, of course, you can find me at:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.adamnash.com" target="_blank">http://www.adamnash.com</a> (my domain)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com" target="_blank">http://blog.adamnash.com</a> (WordPress)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamnash">http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamnash</a> (LinkedIn)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.twitter.com/adamnash" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/adamnash</a> (Twitter)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/adamnash" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/profiles/adamnash</a> (Google)</li>
<li><a href="http://myworld.ebay.com/adamnash" target="_blank">http://myworld.ebay.com/adamnash</a> (eBay)</li>
</ul>
<p>Brilliant from an SEO perspective, I guess.  Not that hot if I was looking for anonymity.</p>
<p>Now, I can safely say, Facebook is safe for &#8220;adamnash&#8221; as well:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.facebook.com/adamnash" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/adamnash</a> (Facebook)</li>
</ul>
<p>I feel a little guilty for hogging all the virtual cyberspace for myself.  There are other Adam Nashes out there.  I think there are over 30 on LinkedIn alone.</p>
<p>But not that guilty.  I&#8217;ve been &#8220;adamnash&#8221; since 1992.  I&#8217;m not going to stop now.</p>
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		<title>Ask Not For Whom the Bell Tweets&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you have not been following the latest Twitter drama, I thought I&#8217;d share it briefly here on this blog. Meet Connor Riley.  She seems like a nice enough young woman, going to UC Berkeley.  Her personal student website is online, including her resume.  After all, she is looking for a job. Good news!  She [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1128&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have not been following the latest Twitter drama, I thought I&#8217;d share it briefly here on this blog.</p>
<p>Meet <a href="http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/people/students/connorriley" target="_blank">Connor Riley</a>.  She seems like a nice enough young woman, going to UC Berkeley.  Her <a href="http://people.ischool.berkeley.edu/~criley/" target="_blank">personal student website</a> is online, including her resume.  After all, she is looking for a job.</p>
<p>Good news!  She landed an offer from Cisco, one of the few big tech companies hiring these days.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, she sent out a message on Twitter that was captured as follows:</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1129" title="theconnor_ciscofatty2" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/theconnor_ciscofatty2.jpg?w=400&#038;h=51" alt="theconnor_ciscofatty2" width="400" height="51" /></p>
<p>She apparently didn&#8217;t understand that by default, everyone can see  you tweet.  Needless to say, someone at Cisco saw this tweet (likely from a saved search or TweetDeck stream for &#8220;Cisco&#8221;) and responded as follows:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1130" title="fatty_answer" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/fatty_answer.jpg?w=374&#038;h=235" alt="fatty_answer" width="374" height="235" /></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Thus, the &#8220;<strong>Cisco Fatty</strong>&#8221; incident was born.   Amazing stream &#8211; you can see <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=cisco+fatty" target="_blank">the Twitter search here</a>.  The drama.  The intrigue.  A couple articles:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/how-to-lose-your-job-in-140-characters-or-less/" target="_blank">How to lose your job in 140 characters or less</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/twitter-can-help-get-jobs-take-them-away-16977" target="_blank">Twitter Search: Not your friend if you tweet something bad</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Connor actually <a href="http://www.theconnor.net/?p=12" target="_blank">posted a response</a> on her personal site.  It&#8217;s not much, but here&#8217;s a sample:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sometimes in the course of applying for a job, it becomes apparent that it’s a job you don’t want to do. I declined one such job early on Tuesday, and then, because I live at some distance from many of my close friends, I decided to use Twitter to tell them about what I had been thinking.</p>
<p>Let me tell you about how I use Twitter: I have 45 friends. I know all of them. They know me. 95% of them have lived in a dorm or a house with me. I practically can’t offend them, although sometimes I try.</p>
<p>So one checkbox stood between my using Twitter correctly to suit my needs and my using Twitter in a way that would make @timmylevad start baying for my head.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;">It&#8217;s not really that compelling.  Still, I found myself thinking about a few things:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Get used to &#8220;Bad Tweet&#8221; stories. </strong> We&#8217;ve heard a few &#8220;bad tweet&#8221; stories before (remember the &#8220;Memphis&#8221; incident?).  And we&#8217;ll hear more.  It&#8217;s the new, hot social medium, and these stories will take on a life of their own.</li>
<li><strong>The bad economy affects reactions.</strong> This would be one of those classic schadenfreude stories, except that with the economy where it is, people are particularly indignant at anyone who would flaunt and dismiss a great job at a great company like Cisco.  It&#8217;s overstating the case, but in some ways, this taps into anger the same way the AIG bonuses do.  This is just a Gen Y, techie version.</li>
<li><strong>Twitter seems private, but is public.</strong> There are least two very clever aspects to Twitter that have helped its member and usage growth.  The first is being designed, from the ground up, to separate &#8220;following&#8221; from &#8220;follower&#8221;.  Who you see is kept separate from who sees you.  The second, however, is a play on privacy.  <em>Twitter feels private</em>, and the interface leads you to believe that only the people following you can see your tweets.  However, in reality, <em>everyone can see everyone else&#8217;s tweets</em> by default.  The advent of realtime search streams has only made this more obvious.</li>
</ol>
<p>People use Twitter like its a new, better form of group chat&#8230; but it isn&#8217;t.  These messages don&#8217;t just go to friends and family on your buddy list.  These updates don&#8217;t go only to your connections. And until the interface changes to suggest to people that their tweets are public, we&#8217;re going to see more and more people make the same mistake that Connor did.</p>
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		<title>Would You Pay $12.99 for 5 Hours of Facebook?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a note I meant to post over a week ago, but didn&#8217;t get around to it. The question is, would you pay $12.99 for 5 hours of Facebook? The reason I ask is, until a couple weeks ago, I would have assumed the answer was no.  Facebook has become the latest in a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1125&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a note I meant to post over a week ago, but didn&#8217;t get around to it.</p>
<p>The question is, <strong>would you pay $12.99 for 5 hours of Facebook</strong>?</p>
<p>The reason I ask is, until a couple weeks ago, I would have assumed the answer was no.  Facebook has become the latest in a line of great, free internet products.  It flows open and free, like a trillion pages of Niagara Falls, unimpeded by usage charges.</p>
<p>Then I flew Virgin America to JFK &amp; back.  5-6 hours each way.  And the flights had Wi-Fi.</p>
<p>(The Wi-Fi was fantastic, by the way.  I got a phenomenal amount of work done on the plane, and having live access to email and the web was incredibly useful.  Having realtime access to Twitter wasn&#8217;t as useful, but certainly was fun.  I also saw some funny behavior patterns &#8211; like people watching live sports on the laptops while their seat-back television was on CNN or CNBC.  Anyway, I digress&#8230;)</p>
<p>For $12.99 you got wi-fi&#8230; for about 5 hours.  Worth the cost most likely to make the flight productive for work, especially compared to an $8 snack pack.</p>
<p>Next to me on the plan was a woman, likely 20-25 years of age.  As soon as we were allowed to use our laptops, she flipped hers open, paid the $12.99&#8230; and went to Facebook.</p>
<p>I was sitting one seat away from her, so I could see what she was doing.  She spent about 3 hours on Facebook, with a small amount of miscellaneous web surfing mixed in.  But it was almost all Facebook.</p>
<p>It was interesting to me, because the economics of Facebook have been fodder for discussion in the Valley for a couple of years now.  And here I was, watching someone pay $12.99 for Facebook.</p>
<p>It then occurred to me how much money the &#8220;dumb pipes&#8221; of the internet are really making.  How many people upgrade their internet service to broadband because they want to make YouTube faster?  How many people are effectively paying the service providers to access content created by others?  How many people pay charges for internet service at hotels, airports, coffee shops?  To wireless providers, cable providers, satellite providers, phone providers?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting counter-balance to the argument that the service providers give for bandwidth throttling and other pricing power maneuvers.  They would still argue they aren&#8217;t getting enough of the pie.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m pretty sure that Facebook got 0% of that $12.99.</p>
<p>Makes you realize why AOL actually worked back in the day.  You know, in simpler times.</p>
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		<title>Mom Gadget on MySpace, Facebook, LinkedIn &amp; Twitter</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/01/05/mom-gadget-on-myspace-facebook-linkedin-twitter/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Had to share this small gem of a find.  It&#8217;s not one of my normal RSS feeds, but my wife forwarded me this article from Mom Gadget: Mom Gadget: MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin – Double U – Tee &#8211; H (Turns out, the reason she asked me to look at it was to translate the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1034&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to share this small gem of a find.  It&#8217;s not one of my normal RSS feeds, but my wife forwarded me this article from Mom Gadget:<br />
<a href="http://momgadget.com/myspace-facebook-twitter-linkedin-double-u-tee-h/" target="_blank"><br />
<strong>Mom Gadget: MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin – Double U – Tee &#8211; H</strong></a></p>
<p>(Turns out, the reason she asked me to look at it was to translate the &#8220;Double U &#8211; Tee &#8211; H&#8221;.  I told her it was WTH or &#8220;What the Hell&#8221;.  There were several minutes of back and forth before she was convinced I was right.)</p>
<p>In any case, the article covers a basic cyber-mom question of what social networks she belongs to, and what each is for.  I thought the four snippets were great:</p>
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<ul>
<li><strong>MySpace</strong> is a socializing website for teens, young adults, stars and music</li>
<li><strong>Facebook</strong> is sort of the same only for young adults and tracking down your old school classmates and college friends without having to join <strong>Classmates.com</strong> for $29 plus a year.</li>
<li><strong>Linkedin</strong> is for professional adults and for networking with people in business and sometimes it’s helped people land really awesome jobs.</li>
<li><strong>Twitter</strong> – everyone is doing Twitter. Twitter is like text messaging meets the internet. It’s a way to text all your friends at once and have them text you back.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>Of course, the primary theme of the article is one of social network fatigue.  Apparently, this mom draws the line at these four.</p>
<p><strong>Daily/Weekly use, in order of repeat visits (December 2008):</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Google Reader</li>
<li>My Yahoo</li>
<li>LinkedIn</li>
<li>Twitter</li>
<li>WordPress.com (this blog)</li>
<li>Facebook</li>
<li>E*Trade</li>
<li>Mint.com</li>
</ul>
<p>Twitter is the biggest surprise for me.  I&#8217;ve been playing with it for months, but I&#8217;ve noticed my activity has been increasing measurably.  This past month, I&#8217;ve been checking it multiple times per day (thanks to <a href="http://www.twitterfon.com/" target="_blank">TwitterFon</a> for the iPhone).  <a href="http://www.mint.com" target="_blank">Mint.com</a> also has spiked up now that it has iPhone integration.</p>
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		<title>Congratulations to Mike Schroepfer &amp; Facebook</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you missed the 39 articles currently on Google News on the topic, Mike Schroepfer announced today that he has accepted an engineering leadership position at Facebook.   Mike is the current VP of Engineering at Mozilla, and has been there for about three years. Here are Mike&#8217;s comments, direct from his Mozilla blog. In my [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=755&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you missed the <a href="http://news.google.com/news?ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hl=en&amp;resnum=4&amp;ncl=1230965002" target="_blank">39 articles</a> currently on Google News on the topic, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/feeds/?p=161" target="_blank">Mike Schroepfer announced today</a> that he has accepted an engineering leadership position at Facebook.   Mike is the current VP of Engineering at Mozilla, and has been there for about three years.</p>
<p>Here are <a href="http://blog.mozilla.com/schrep/" target="_blank">Mike&#8217;s comments</a>, direct from his Mozilla blog.</p>
<p>In my opinion, of course, this is a huge win for <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/companies/10667?trk=ape_s000001e_1000" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, as they get a top-notch engineering leader to join their team.  It&#8217;s bittersweet, of course, because I&#8217;m also a huge fan of Mozilla and the team over there.  I think Mike summed it up best in his post by expressing confidence in the ability of the Mozilla team to continue to innovate and deliver on their mission and vision.</p>
<p>If you are curious, here is <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/schrep" target="_blank">Mike&#8217;s LinkedIn profile</a>.  You can be sure I&#8217;ll be on his case for him to keep it up-to-date. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Antisocial Journalist Discovers LinkedIn&#8230; and becomes a Fan</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2008/03/28/antisocial-journalist-discovers-linkedin-and-becomes-a-fan/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a fun story, courtesy of the Boston Herald.  Reminds me a bit of my mother&#8217;s conversion last year to a true LinkedIn fan: Boston Herald: Antisocial Critic Now Web Phanatic I finally caved to peer pressure last week, convinced that the “best time to look for a job is when you’re not looking” [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=671&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fun story, courtesy of the Boston Herald.  Reminds me a bit of my mother&#8217;s conversion last year to a true LinkedIn fan:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?&amp;articleid=1082864" target="_blank"><b>Boston Herald: Antisocial Critic Now Web Phanatic</b></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I finally caved to peer pressure last week, convinced that the “best time to look for a job is when you’re not looking” cliche is all too true. Uploading my e-mail address book into the LinkedIn system, I invited nearly 300 personal and business associates to publicly admit they know me.</p>
<p>“Hi there!</p>
<p>After years of avoiding social networking like the plague, I’ve finally decided to show up to the dance.</p>
<p>Using “plague” and “dance” is a mixed metaphor to be sure, but please forgive me.</p>
<p>We’ve been in touch previously for one of my Boston Herald columns or TV production assignments, and I’d like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.”</p>
<p>Pretending I’m asking for a date to the prom for an agonizing 300 times might have been too cutesy for some recipients. But I thought it was much better than the trust pitch.</p>
<p>A funny thing happened over the next few days. The annoying process of networking became enjoyable. Scratch that. I actually found LinkedIn to be addicting.</p>
<p>“Darren, welcome to the dance!” wrote Joe, a business development guy for a local engineering firm. “Those of us who are poet/artists in marketers’ clothing see (social networking) for what it is &#8211; a sort of goofy/fun thing that could actually pay off in many ways.</p>
<p>“So welcome, and may you use your new powers for good not evil. You’ll probably want a Blackberry next &#8211; don’t fight it, they’re cool.”</p>
<p>Who would RSVP to my invitation next? How high could I get my number of contacts? I found myself in an undeclared competition with my co-workers. A guy down the hall went to college with one of my favorite TV meteorologists. When he added her to his network, the office considered it a major coup.</p></blockquote>
<p>At LinkedIn, we spend most of our time working on new and useful ways of leveraging your professional network and professional reputation to make you more effective on a daily basis.  But it&#8217;s still amazing to me how emotionally powerful the basic &#8220;reconnect&#8221; features can be for people.</p>
<p>I think this journalist did a great job capturing how good that first euphoric wave of connection can feel for someone just discovering LinkedIn.  It&#8217;s a lot of fun to see in print.</p>
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		<title>Here Comes Another Bubble: YouTube Video (The Richter Scales)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hits a little too close to home&#8230; especially on the housing prices in the Bay Area. So clever I watched it twice. Plus, I feel like being a fan boy because when they say &#8220;hire an engineer&#8221;, I&#8217;m pretty sure I know that engineer!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=563&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hits a little too close to home&#8230; especially on the housing prices in the Bay Area.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2007/12/05/here-comes-another-bubble-youtube-video-the-richter-scales/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/fi4fzvQ6I-o/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>So clever I watched it twice.  Plus, I feel like being a fan boy because when they say &#8220;hire an engineer&#8221;, I&#8217;m pretty sure I know that engineer!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>eBay Launches Social Networking&#8230; or at least, Neighborhoods</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[eBay launched Neighborhoods today, part of their big push to re-invigorate activity and excitement around the core of the auction platform.  eBay was built over people connecting about the products and categories that they collect and sell, and this effort definitely attempts to recapture more of that original community feel. What are Neighborhoods? Think of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=528&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eBay <a href="http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200710091605092.html" target="_blank">launched Neighborhoods today</a>, part of their big push to re-invigorate activity and excitement around the core of the auction platform.  eBay was built over people connecting about the products and categories that they collect and sell, and this effort definitely attempts to recapture more of that original community feel.</p>
<blockquote><p>  <strong>What are Neighborhoods?</strong><br />
Think of Neighborhoods as a gathering place for fans of a certain product, team, artist, and more. They&#8217;ve been created around popular items and searches and are designed for members with a very specific interest in mind.</p>
<p>For example, if you&#8217;re crazy about Audi automobiles, steer yourself over to that Neighborhood. Or maybe you love the &#8220;Slippery When Wet&#8221; album&#8230;the Bon Jovi Neighborhood could be for you. You&#8217;ll be able to find links to Neighborhoods on applicable search results pages and the <a href="http://hub.ebay.com/community" target="_blank">Community hub</a>, or simply search for them at <a href="http://neighborhoods.ebay.com/" target="_blank">http://neighborhoods.ebay.com</a>.</p>
<p>Within a Neighborhood, you&#8217;ll find a discussion board dedicated to that topic where you can ask and answer questions, brag about your latest auction win, or discuss what&#8217;s new. You can upload and share photos related to that topic &#8211; and vote on which are best &#8211; or check out related listings, reviews, guides and blogs. You can even use our tools to see who else is part of that Neighborhood, or to find other Neighborhoods that might interest you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Auctionbytes <a href="http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y07/m10/i10/s03" target="_blank">covered the launch</a> basics on their site as well.</p>
<p>You can find eBay Neighborhoods <a href="http://neighborhoods.ebay.com/" target="_blank">here</a>.  I joined this neighborhood dedicated to the Apple iPhone <a href="http://neighborhoods.ebay.com/apple-iphone" target="_blank">here</a>.  Performance is incredibly slow right now, but I&#8217;m assuming they are working out the kinks there.</p>
<p>I caught some flack a few weeks ago for a post I wrote on Ning, where I basically argued that <a href="http://psychohistory.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/ebay-should-buy-ning-but-can-they-afford-it/" target="_blank">eBay should have acquired Ning</a> before it received financing at a $200M+ price tag.  At the time, I compared it to eBay Groups, which was the 2004 effort by eBay to upgrade their community functionality.  Clearly, eBay Neighborhoods is a much fairer comparison.</p>
<p>Discuss.</p>
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		<title>Office 2.0 Panel Wrap-Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought I&#8217;d post a quick follow-up to the Office 2.0 conference, especially since I mentioned the appearance on this blog earlier this week. The Office 2.0 conference is dedicated to exploring the use of Web 2.0 technologies in the enterprise, and I was a bit surprised by the dedication and passion that many of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=509&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I&#8217;d post a quick follow-up to the Office 2.0 conference, especially since I mentioned the appearance on this blog earlier this week.</p>
<p>The Office 2.0 conference is dedicated to exploring the use of Web 2.0 technologies in the enterprise, and I was a bit surprised by the dedication and passion that many of the attendees and fellow panelists had for the topic.</p>
<p>There are a few summaries of the panel that I participated in, called &#8220;Social Computing&#8221;, already online.</p>
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<li>Here is a quick &#8220;<a href="http://ca.blognation.com/2007/09/06/social-computing-in-the-enterprise-panel-with-shel-israel/" target="_blank">live blog</a>&#8221; on the panel on blognation.</li>
<li>Here is the <a href="http://www.personalbee.com/227/18201006" target="_blank">warm-up post</a> from Shel Israel on his blog.</li>
<li>Here is a general <a href="http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/005365.html" target="_blank">Office 2.0 Booming!</a> post from PC World.</li>
<li>Jeremiah Owyang has the <a href="http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/07/office-20-pushes-the-social-web-inside-the-corporation/" target="_blank">most detailed review</a> of the conference on his blog.</li>
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<p>To stick with Jeremiah for a second, his blog calls our panel, &#8220;the best panel I&#8217;ve seen in a long time.&#8221;  In particular, Jeremiah appreciated both the atypical format of the panel as well as the fact that we spent some time talking directly about Facebook and the question of the blurring of social &amp; professional lives, particularly among the millenial generation.  Here&#8217;s the direct quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>While I despised the vendor pitching from one panel on mobile (Attention moderators, control your panelists, respect those who paid to attend) the best panel I’ve seen in a LONG time was the one moderated by <a href="http://redcouch.typepad.com/weblog/">Shel Israel</a>, <a href="http://www.o2con.com/docs/DOC-1103">focused on Social Computing</a>, the esteemed panel included: <a href="http://www.dashes.com/anil/">Anil Dash of Six Apart</a>, <a href="http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/">John McCrea of Plaxo</a>, <a href="http://web.mac.com/adamnash/iWeb/AdamNash/Homepage.html">Adam Nash of LinkedIn</a>, <a href="http://www.shivsingh.com/">Shiv Singh of Razorfish</a>, <a href="http://networkcreators.ning.com/profile/athenavo">Athena von Oech</a> of Ning. I enjoyed the format, it wasn’t the usual Q&amp;A, but each speaker (moderator included) were able to present their ideas and concepts up front, great format. As expected, Anil elevates the conversation to a strategic discussion, it’s always a pleasure to hear him. Many of these vendors are from social networking companies, and although Facebook wasn’t on the panel (those guys are hard to get) the conversation persisted around Facebook. As with most vendors, if they don’t have a ‘facebook strategy’ they pass it as a fad, or are nonchalant attitude. I clearly see the threat for some of these vendors, hence my <a href="http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/08/11/web-strategy-what-the-web-strategist-should-know-about-facebook/">focus on the topic</a>. I like the shift the panel took, towards the impacts of social computing (social networks, blogs, media, live web) tools towards society, in which Buzz Bruggemen piped up from the audience that he only had business contacts, not personal contacts on Facebook. In response, I tickled the panel for their opinion on personal/business lives meshing, especially with the millennial generation. The panel answered back, that those who had both merged were rare.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m probably going to write up something a bit more formal for the official LinkedIn blog on this topic, but as a personal note, I&#8217;m proud of the panel for taking on real meaty questions head on, even though a 45-minute window really isn&#8217;t enough time to do the topic justice.</p>
<p>For me, the event was my first chance to take some of the vision and excitement from my first few months with LinkedIn, and share it with a public audience.  I&#8217;m more convinced than ever that the most important aspects of our professional careers are our reputation, experience, and connections to those who we know and trust, and who know and trust us.  LinkedIn is extremely focused on building a platform that enables professionals to be more effective on a daily basis, and based on the comments of those who came up to me after the panel, it&#8217;s clear that this vision resonates with people who are passionate about Web 2.0 in the enterprise.</p>
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		<title>Valleyfreude Video on Valleywag (Facebook IPO Video)</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2007/07/10/valleyfreude-video-on-valleywag-facebook-ipo-video/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I know I&#8217;m just providing blog-chamber echo here, but I had to post. I had read a while ago about the video, &#8220;Valleyfreude&#8221; that was made by Randi Jayne, sister of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg.  Every article about it highlighted the line: &#8220;F*ck you Yahoo, they&#8217;re going IPO&#8220; Given the recent buzz around Facebook, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=472&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I know I&#8217;m just providing blog-chamber echo here, but I had to post.</p>
<p>I had read a while ago about the video, &#8220;Valleyfreude&#8221; that was made by Randi Jayne, sister of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg.  Every article about it highlighted the line:</p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/facebook/f+++-you-yahoo-theyre-going-ipo-276254.php" target="_blank">F*ck you Yahoo, they&#8217;re going IPO</a>&#8220;</p>
<p>Given the recent buzz around Facebook, it wasn&#8217;t surprising to have this kind of unpredictible tidbit pop up everywhere.  However, I was a bit surprised and disappointed to find out that the video has been taken down from most sites.</p>
<p><a href="http://valleywag.com/tech/family-business/a-facebook-insider-dances-her-way-to-the-ipo-276235.php" target="_blank">Valleywag still has it here</a>.  Enjoy.  It is worth watching.   Click it now before it&#8217;s gone!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was surprised to find out that Mark&#8217;s little sister seems to have also created video hits like, &#8220;<a href="http://www.thedotcomix.com/?p=1" target="_blank">How to Get a Guy in Silicon Valley</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m at a loss for words.</p>
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