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		<title>Avatar 2: My Proposal for a Sequel</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The incredible (and somewhat predictable) success of Avatar at the box office (and the Golden Globes) has everyone talking about a sequel to Avatar.  In fact, this quote from James Cameron suggests a trilogy:
To some it&#8217;s a mashup of &#8220;Dancing With Wolves&#8221; and &#8220;Ferngully: The Last Rainforest.&#8221; But James Cameron&#8217;s &#8220;Avatar&#8221; has stormed the international [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1376&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incredible (and somewhat predictable) success of Avatar at the box office (and the Golden Globes) has everyone talking about a sequel to Avatar.  In fact, this quote from James Cameron <a href="http://airlockalpha.com/news/7046/avatar-may-become-a-trilogy.html" target="_blank">suggests a trilogy</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>To some it&#8217;s a mashup of &#8220;Dancing With Wolves&#8221; and &#8220;Ferngully: The Last Rainforest.&#8221; But James Cameron&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://airlockalpha.com/news/7046/avatar-may-become-a-trilogy.html#" target="_blank">Avatar<img src="http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif" alt="" /></a>&#8221; has stormed the international box office with a global taking of more than $1.6 billion and may very well be on its way for a sequel &#8230; or two.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have a trilogy-scaled arc of <a href="http://airlockalpha.com/news/7046/avatar-may-become-a-trilogy.html#" target="_blank">story</a> right now,&#8221; Cameron told MTV. &#8220;But I haven&#8217;t really put any serious work into writing a script.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Avatar is highly derivative of other stories and science fiction, and as an avid reader of the genre, I thought I could take a crack at a potential, obvious premise for the backstory of Avatar 2.</p>
<p><em><strong>Premise</strong>: It&#8217;s five years after the first movie.  There has been peace on Pandora, as Sully and Neytiri have ushered in a new age of cooperation and understanding between the tribes of the Na&#8217;vi.  The humans have been evacuated, with the exception of a small set of scientists who have been given permission to continue their efforts to bridge the learning and knowledge of the two cultures.</em></p>
<p><em>However, there have been unusual occurrences on the planet.  The behavior of the flora and fauna on Pandora has been unpredictable, confusing Neytiri who utters more than once that &#8220;this has never happened before&#8221;.   Modifications of some species begin to appear, as well as completely unknown species are discovered.  The scientists can&#8217;t explain it, and Sully tries more than once to communicate with Eywa, with no answers.</em></p>
<p><em>Silently, a massive human invasion fleet is on its way to Pandora.  The resources of Pandora are too valuable, and once the Na&#8217;vi attacked the corporation, it justified a larger military involvement at 100x the scale of the original movie.</em></p>
<p><em>It turns out, however, that the biology of Pandora was too idealistic to have naturally evolved.  After all, every creature sharing a common communication link is incredibly unlikely.  10 foot humanoids with carbon fiber skeletal structures also seems a little far fetched.  It turns out that Pandora is a very special planet, because it&#8217;s entire eco-system of creatures was engineered by an advanced race.  That race left Eywa, a massively parallel organic computer, in place, dormant, to monitor the situation and ensure that Pandora progressed as planned.</em></p>
<p><em>When Eywa awoke, it began taking emergency measures to modify and enhance existing species against the potential threat.  And it sent an interstellar signal to its creators, to let them know that all was not well with Pandora.  That&#8217;s right.  The creators are coming&#8230;<br />
</em></p>
<p>&#8230; there.  That&#8217;s enough for Avatar 2.  Avatar 3 can then focus on what the master plan of the creator race was after all, when the Pandora experiment goes awry.</p>
<p>Given the evolution of the Aliens story (also by James Cameron), I actually think this is a plausible direction.  There is a parallel between the plot surrounding a single ship facing one alien in the first movie, and a massive military engagement with a massive alien force (and new creatures) in the second movie.</p>
<p><strong>Please note:</strong> I have absolutely no data whatsoever about the actual direction of Avatar 2.  This is just speculation on my part, as a science fiction lover.  Any reflection of the real plot or premise for Avatar 2 is purely coincidental.</p>
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		<title>Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I take the time to create a whole new post for Café World in 2010, and what does Zynga do?  They roll out some new crazy dishes based on an alien invasion, and now I&#8217;m 1.6M Café coins poorer.  Oh well.

Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic:

Café World Economics: Profit &#38; Café [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1366&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I take the time to create a whole new post for Café World in 2010, and what does Zynga do?  They roll out some new crazy dishes based on an alien invasion, and now I&#8217;m 1.6M Café coins poorer.  Oh well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I find it fairly interesting that Zynga is clearly mapping the same thematic variants from Farmville to their other games.  I remember when they did the space theme for Farmville (I still have 5 alien cows that produce Milktonium as proof&#8230;)</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t repeat the previous analysis.  As a reminder, all of these numbers assume:</p>
<ul>
<li>The numbers are per dish, per stove</li>
<li>The numbers assume the cost (15 coins) and experience (+1) of cleaning the stove each cycle</li>
<li>Profit &amp; Cafe Points tables assume &#8220;instant&#8221; cleaning time.</li>
<li>Real World Hourly Wages assumes a cleaning time of 1 minute per stove.</li>
</ul>
<p>You can read my previous posts for the rational behind these assumptions.</p>
<p><strong>Profit per Dish</strong></p>
<p>Here are the dishes, sorted by profitability as measured by profit per dish per day.</p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="144" height="12"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="69"><strong>Profit / Cycle</strong></td>
<td width="61"><strong>Cycle Time</strong></td>
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<td width="144" height="12">V.I.P. Dinner</td>
<td width="69" align="right">9,786.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">13,048.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td width="69" align="right">22.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">6,336.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,985.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,970.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td width="69" align="right">985.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,910.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,435.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">840.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,888.57</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td width="69" align="right">490.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,880.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td width="69" align="right">485.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,820.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Martian Brain Bake</td>
<td width="69" align="right">5,585.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,585.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,355.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">360.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,420.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td width="69" align="right">5,370.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,370.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,785.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,355.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td width="69" align="right">11.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,280.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td width="69" align="right">10,185.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5,092.50</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td width="69" align="right">67.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,824.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td width="69" align="right">50.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">15.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,800.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td width="69" align="right">595.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">180.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,760.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td width="69" align="right">65.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,680.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td width="69" align="right">385.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,620.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,485.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,455.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td width="69" align="right">135.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">45.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,320.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td width="69" align="right">885.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">300.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,248.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Stardust Stew</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,535.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">540.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,093.33</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td width="69" align="right">28.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">10.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">4,032.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,985.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,985.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,960.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,920.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td width="69" align="right">7,585.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,792.50</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,785.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,785.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,885.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,770.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,685.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,580.00</td>
</tr>
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<td width="144" height="12">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td width="69" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,264.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,885.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,320.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,147.27</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td width="69" align="right">130.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">60.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3,120.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td width="69" align="right">245.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,940.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td width="69" align="right">57.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,736.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td width="69" align="right">910.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,730.00</td>
</tr>
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<td width="144" height="12">Gingerbread House</td>
<td width="69" align="right">13,485.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">7,200.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,697.00</td>
</tr>
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<td width="144" height="12">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td width="69" align="right">2,585.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,585.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">French Onion Soup</td>
<td width="69" align="right">425.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,550.00</td>
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<td width="144" height="12">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,235.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,470.00</td>
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<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Caramel Apples</td>
<td width="69" align="right">195.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,340.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td width="69" align="right">3,935.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,967.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td width="69" align="right">1,695.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,695.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="144" height="12">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td width="69" align="right">845.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,690.00</td>
</tr>
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</table>
<p><strong>Café Points per Dish</strong></p>
<p>Here are the dishes, sorted by café points per dish per day.</p>
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<table style="height:630px;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="420"><!--StartFragment--><br />
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<col width="98"></col>
<col width="61"></col>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="138" height="12"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="98"><strong>Café Points / Cycle</strong></td>
<td width="61"><strong>Cycle Time</strong></td>
<td width="90"><strong>Café Points / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td width="98" align="right">7.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">5.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">2,016.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td width="98" align="right">14.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">10.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">2,016.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td width="98" align="right">4.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">3.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,920.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td width="98" align="right">21.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,512.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td width="98" align="right">14.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">15.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,344.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td width="98" align="right">15.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,080.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td width="98" align="right">22.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,056.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td width="98" align="right">21.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">30.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">1,008.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td width="98" align="right">31.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">45.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">992.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td width="98" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">816.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td width="98" align="right">63.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">756.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td width="98" align="right">156.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">360.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">624.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td width="98" align="right">200.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">600.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td width="98" align="right">49.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">588.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td width="98" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">180.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">544.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td width="98" align="right">22.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">60.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">528.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td width="98" align="right">41.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">492.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td width="98" align="right">273.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">840.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">468.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td width="98" align="right">75.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">450.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td width="98" align="right">403.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,320.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">439.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Caramel Apples</td>
<td width="98" align="right">35.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">120.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">420.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td width="98" align="right">206.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">412.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td width="98" align="right">403.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">403.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Stardust Stew</td>
<td width="98" align="right">139.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">540.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">370.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td width="98" align="right">123.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">369.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">French Onion Soup</td>
<td width="98" align="right">61.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">240.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">366.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td width="98" align="right">168.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td width="98" align="right">68.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">300.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">326.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Martian Brain Bake</td>
<td width="98" align="right">314.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">314.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td width="98" align="right">100.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">480.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">300.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td width="98" align="right">140.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">280.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td width="98" align="right">252.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">252.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">V.I.P. Dinner</td>
<td width="98" align="right">175.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">233.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td width="98" align="right">225.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">225.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td width="98" align="right">166.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,080.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">221.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Gingerbread House</td>
<td width="98" align="right">1,063.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">7,200.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">212.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td width="98" align="right">210.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td width="98" align="right">102.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">204.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td width="98" align="right">351.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">175.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td width="98" align="right">307.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">153.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td width="98" align="right">76.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">720.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">152.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td width="98" align="right">279.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">2,880.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">139.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="138" height="12">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td width="98" align="right">113.00</td>
<td width="61" align="right">1,440.00</td>
<td width="90" align="right">113.00</td>
</tr>
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</table>
<p><strong>Real World Hourly Wage per Dish</strong></p>
<p>Here are the dishes, sorted by the real world hourly wage for each dish per day, in US dollars.</p>
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<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="347"><!--StartFragment--><br />
<col width="141"></col>
<col span="2" width="103"></col>
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<tr style="text-align:right;">
<td style="text-align:left;" width="141" height="12"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>$ / Hour (Low)</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>$ / Hour (High)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Gingerbread House</td>
<td width="103" align="right">121.35</td>
<td width="103" align="right">264.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td width="103" align="right">91.66</td>
<td width="103" align="right">199.57</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">V.I.P. Dinner</td>
<td width="103" align="right">88.07</td>
<td width="103" align="right">191.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td width="103" align="right">68.26</td>
<td width="103" align="right">148.62</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Martian Brain Bake</td>
<td width="103" align="right">50.26</td>
<td width="103" align="right">109.43</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td width="103" align="right">48.33</td>
<td width="103" align="right">105.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td width="103" align="right">35.86</td>
<td width="103" align="right">78.08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td width="103" align="right">35.41</td>
<td width="103" align="right">77.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td width="103" align="right">34.06</td>
<td width="103" align="right">74.16</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td width="103" align="right">30.91</td>
<td width="103" align="right">67.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td width="103" align="right">26.86</td>
<td width="103" align="right">58.49</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td width="103" align="right">25.96</td>
<td width="103" align="right">56.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td width="103" align="right">24.16</td>
<td width="103" align="right">52.61</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td width="103" align="right">23.26</td>
<td width="103" align="right">50.65</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td width="103" align="right">17.64</td>
<td width="103" align="right">38.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td width="103" align="right">16.96</td>
<td width="103" align="right">36.94</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td width="103" align="right">16.06</td>
<td width="103" align="right">34.98</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td width="103" align="right">15.25</td>
<td width="103" align="right">33.21</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Stardust Stew</td>
<td width="103" align="right">13.81</td>
<td width="103" align="right">30.08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td width="103" align="right">13.36</td>
<td width="103" align="right">29.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td width="103" align="right">12.19</td>
<td width="103" align="right">26.55</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td width="103" align="right">11.11</td>
<td width="103" align="right">24.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td width="103" align="right">8.86</td>
<td width="103" align="right">19.30</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td width="103" align="right">8.19</td>
<td width="103" align="right">17.83</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7.96</td>
<td width="103" align="right">17.34</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7.60</td>
<td width="103" align="right">16.56</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5.35</td>
<td width="103" align="right">11.66</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td width="103" align="right">4.41</td>
<td width="103" align="right">9.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td width="103" align="right">4.36</td>
<td width="103" align="right">9.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">French Onion Soup</td>
<td width="103" align="right">3.82</td>
<td width="103" align="right">8.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td width="103" align="right">3.46</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7.54</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td width="103" align="right">2.20</td>
<td width="103" align="right">4.80</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Caramel Apples</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.75</td>
<td width="103" align="right">3.82</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.21</td>
<td width="103" align="right">2.65</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.17</td>
<td width="103" align="right">2.55</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.61</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.60</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.58</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.51</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1.12</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.45</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.98</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.25</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.55</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.20</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.43</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="141" height="12">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.10</td>
<td width="103" align="right">0.22</td>
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<p><strong>Special Bonus: </strong> I&#8217;ve now moved my spreadsheet over to this <a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aj7KDHJLUaEJdDhPTmJQS2tPMjNnSVhpV1VLOENKTHc&amp;hl=en" target="_blank">Google Spreadsheet</a>.  Now you can see all the rows of calculation for some insight into Café World Economics.  As usual, let me know if you find mistakes or have questions&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[What better way to spend the waning hours of the first day of the new decade than to update all of the tables for the new dishes on Café World?  Zynga has added a number of new dishes over the past few weeks, so it&#8217;s about time for updated data on all the dishes.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What better way to spend the waning hours of the first day of the new decade than to update all of the tables for the new dishes on Café World?  Zynga has added a number of new dishes over the past few weeks, so it&#8217;s about time for updated data on all the dishes.</p>
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<p>Since I&#8217;ve written three previous articles on the topic:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I won&#8217;t repeat the previous analysis.  As a reminder, all of these numbers assume:</p>
<ul>
<li>The numbers are per dish, per stove</li>
<li>The numbers assume the cost (15 coins) and experience (+1) of cleaning the stove each cycle</li>
<li>Profit &amp; Cafe Points tables assume &#8220;instant&#8221; cleaning time.</li>
<li>Real World Hourly Wages assumes a cleaning time of 1 minute per stove.</li>
</ul>
<p>You can read my previous posts for the rational behind these assumptions.</p>
<p><strong>How to use these tables.</strong> For me, I use the tables as follows:  If I know I won&#8217;t be able to check on my Café for the next 24 hours, I go down the table I&#8217;m trying to optimize for (money or experience) and I look for the first dish in the list that is 1440 minutes AND that I have enough experience to cook.  For example, I&#8217;m currently at level 42, so if I&#8217;m looking for a &#8220;1 day&#8221; dish, the first one for experience is Grand Tandoori Chicken.  But since I can&#8217;t buy that yet, I have to keep going down until I hit King Crab Bisque.</p>
<p><strong>Table #1:  Profit per dish </strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
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<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">5888.6</td>
<td align="right">245.4</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td align="right">5820.0</td>
<td align="right">242.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">5420.0</td>
<td align="right">225.8</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
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<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">5355.0</td>
<td align="right">223.1</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">4760.0</td>
<td align="right">198.3</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td align="right">4680.0</td>
<td align="right">195.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td align="right">4620.0</td>
<td align="right">192.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">4455.0</td>
<td align="right">185.6</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">4320.0</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">3985.0</td>
<td align="right">166.0</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">3792.5</td>
<td align="right">158.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">3785.0</td>
<td align="right">157.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
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<td height="13">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td align="right">3770.0</td>
<td align="right">157.1</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">3580.0</td>
<td align="right">149.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">3147.3</td>
<td align="right">131.1</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td align="right">2940.0</td>
<td align="right">122.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td align="right">2736.0</td>
<td align="right">114.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">2730.0</td>
<td align="right">113.8</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Gingerbread House</td>
<td align="right">2697.0</td>
<td align="right">112.4</td>
<td align="right">7200.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
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<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
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<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<p><strong>Table #2: Café Points per dish</strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>CP / Day</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>CP / Hour</strong></td>
<td width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
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<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
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<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td align="right">1056.0</td>
<td align="right">44.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
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<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">992.0</td>
<td align="right">41.3</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td align="right">816.0</td>
<td align="right">34.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td align="right">756.0</td>
<td align="right">31.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">624.0</td>
<td align="right">26.0</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">600.0</td>
<td align="right">25.0</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">544.0</td>
<td align="right">22.7</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td align="right">492.0</td>
<td align="right">20.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">468.0</td>
<td align="right">19.5</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">403.0</td>
<td align="right">16.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">369.0</td>
<td align="right">15.4</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">235.6</td>
<td align="right">9.8</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">225.0</td>
<td align="right">9.4</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">221.3</td>
<td align="right">9.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Gingerbread House</td>
<td align="right">212.6</td>
<td align="right">8.9</td>
<td align="right">7200.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td align="right">204.0</td>
<td align="right">8.5</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">153.5</td>
<td align="right">6.4</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<p><strong>Table #3: Real World Hourly Wages per dish</strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="134" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="123"><strong>Hourly Wage (high)</strong></td>
<td width="115"><strong>Hourly Wage (low)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Gingerbread House</td>
<td align="right">$264.23</td>
<td align="right">$121.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">$199.57</td>
<td align="right">$91.66</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">$148.62</td>
<td align="right">$68.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">$105.22</td>
<td align="right">$48.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$78.08</td>
<td align="right">$35.86</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">$77.10</td>
<td align="right">$35.41</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">$74.16</td>
<td align="right">$34.06</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">$67.31</td>
<td align="right">$30.91</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">$58.49</td>
<td align="right">$26.86</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">$56.53</td>
<td align="right">$25.96</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">$52.61</td>
<td align="right">$24.16</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$50.65</td>
<td align="right">$23.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">$38.40</td>
<td align="right">$17.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seasonal Ham</td>
<td align="right">$36.94</td>
<td align="right">$16.96</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">$34.98</td>
<td align="right">$16.06</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">$33.21</td>
<td align="right">$15.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">$29.10</td>
<td align="right">$13.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">$26.55</td>
<td align="right">$12.19</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">$24.20</td>
<td align="right">$11.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">$19.30</td>
<td align="right">$8.86</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">$17.83</td>
<td align="right">$8.19</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">$17.34</td>
<td align="right">$7.96</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">$16.56</td>
<td align="right">$7.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">$11.66</td>
<td align="right">$5.35</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">$9.60</td>
<td align="right">$4.41</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lemon Butter Lobster</td>
<td align="right">$9.50</td>
<td align="right">$4.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">$8.33</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Smoked Salmon Latkes</td>
<td align="right">$7.54</td>
<td align="right">$3.46</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Macaroni and Cheese</td>
<td align="right">$4.80</td>
<td align="right">$2.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
<td align="right">$1.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">$2.65</td>
<td align="right">$1.21</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">$2.55</td>
<td align="right">$1.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">$1.33</td>
<td align="right">$0.61</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">$1.31</td>
<td align="right">$0.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jammin&#8217; Jelly Donuts</td>
<td align="right">$1.27</td>
<td align="right">$0.58</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crème Fraiche Caviar</td>
<td align="right">$1.12</td>
<td align="right">$0.51</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">$0.98</td>
<td align="right">$0.45</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">$0.55</td>
<td align="right">$0.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">$0.43</td>
<td align="right">$0.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">$0.22</td>
<td align="right">$0.10</td>
</tr>
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<p>Once again, a thank you to <a href="http://www.silvy-ariyanti.com/games/cook-your-best-dishes-on-cafe-world-game-facebook/" target="_blank">Simple Think</a>, which continues to have the most up-to-date raw data on Café World dishes at all levels&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted additional articles on Café World Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
</ul>
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		<title>Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 3</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The traffic to my blog from my first two Fishville blog posts has been staggering.  How can I resist?  That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP).  Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The traffic to my blog from my first two Fishville blog posts has been staggering.  How can I resist?  That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP).  Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1316" title="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png?w=300&#038;h=179" alt="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" width="300" height="179" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a little surprised to see how few accurate blog posts exist out on the web that break down the profit &amp; experience for Fishville.  For reference you can still find my first two blogs posts here:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/12/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/16/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-2/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 2</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Fortunately, I have found at least one new useful resource:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://fishville.wikia.com/wiki/FishVille_Wiki" target="_blank">The Fishville Wiki</a> (on wikia)</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;m at Level 42 in Fishville, so I can get almost all of the data myself.  However, I&#8217;m still missing the data for the last two fish:</p>
<ul>
<li>Blueline Trigger</li>
<li>Longhorn Clownfish</li>
</ul>
<p>If you have the data on either of these two fish, please post here in the comments.</p>
<p>In the past few weeks, Zynga has rolled out a number of new fish.  I&#8217;ve updated <a href="http://bit.ly/fishville_stats" target="_blank">my Google Doc</a> with all the updated numbers.</p>
<p>The most interesting addition has been a series of fish that you can only purchase with Sand Dollars, which is the Fishville denomination for game money that you have to buy with real money.</p>
<p>This poses a dilemma for my calculations, since I base profitability on coins spent to coins earned.  As a result, I needed a conversion ratio from Sand Dollars to Coins.  Although you can&#8217;t buy Sand Dollars with Coins, you can buy both with real US dollars ($) from Zynga with a scaling price table:</p>
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<td width="103" height="12"><strong>Dollars</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Coins</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Sand Dollars</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Coins / $</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>SD / $</strong></td>
<td width="103"><strong>Coins / SD</strong></td>
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<td width="103" height="12" align="right">5</td>
<td width="103" align="right">7500</td>
<td width="103" align="right">25</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1500</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5</td>
<td width="103" align="right">300.00</td>
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<td width="103" height="12" align="right">10</td>
<td width="103" align="right">15800</td>
<td width="103" align="right">55</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1580</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5.5</td>
<td width="103" align="right">287.27</td>
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<td width="103" height="12" align="right">20</td>
<td width="103" align="right">33300</td>
<td width="103" align="right">115</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1665</td>
<td width="103" align="right">5.75</td>
<td width="103" align="right">289.57</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="103" height="12" align="right">40</td>
<td width="103" align="right">70600</td>
<td width="103" align="right">240</td>
<td width="103" align="right">1765</td>
<td width="103" align="right">6</td>
<td width="103" align="right">294.17</td>
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<p>Notice anything strange?</p>
<p>According to this table,<strong> the ratio of coins to sand dollars varies between 300 and 287</strong>, and in a non-linear fashion.  It&#8217;s as if Zynga didn&#8217;t compare the volume discount on coins to the volume discount to sand dollars when they generated these prices.</p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s non-linear, I decided to take the &#8220;average&#8221; ratio as my conversion.  So, for the purposes of this blog post, <strong>one sand dollar = 292.75 coins</strong>.</p>
<p>Using that ratio, I was able to regenerate my graphs.  Here is the graph showing profitability of each fish, per level.  All the assumptions from my second blog post still hold:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-profits-p3.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1345" title="Fishville Profits P3" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-profits-p3.png?w=400&#038;h=256" alt="" width="400" height="256" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">What you&#8217;ll notice is that some of the &#8220;sand dollar&#8221; fish are actually <strong>money losers</strong> for the first two levels.  That&#8217;s right, assuming my conversion ratio, <strong>you&#8217;d be better off just buying coins with your money</strong>, rather than buying sand dollars and then growing these fish!</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Now, the updated experience points chart tells a different tale:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-xp-p3.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1346" style="border:0 none;" title="Fishville XP P3" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fishville-xp-p3.png?w=400&#038;h=259" alt="" width="400" height="259" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">In this case, you can clearly see that <strong>the best fish for experience</strong>, excluding the &#8220;fast fish&#8221;, are <strong>the sand dollar fish</strong>.  As a result, it&#8217;s pretty clear that what you are buying with your sand dollars is <strong>a fast path to rise up levels</strong>.  If you&#8217;re willing to spend the money on Batfish, you&#8217;ll be able to climb those levels quickly, and with much less work than minding 5 minute fish&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">You can reference the full data in <a href="http://bit.ly/fishville_stats" target="_blank">my Google Doc</a>.  Let me know if you see any issues with the calculations.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">For reference, I&#8217;ll include the Level 1 tables here, just in case there are issues reading the now huge Google Doc.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Profit per Fish when you harvest at Level 1:</strong></p>
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<td width="135" height="12"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td width="57"><strong>Profit / L1</strong></td>
<td width="70"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td width="81"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Sardine</td>
<td width="57" align="right">7.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">3</td>
<td width="81" align="right">2.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td width="57" align="right">11.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">5</td>
<td width="81" align="right">2.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td width="57" align="right">23.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">15</td>
<td width="81" align="right">1.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Klunzinger Wrasse</td>
<td width="57" align="right">26.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">30</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.87</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Bluedot Jawfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">115.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">180</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td width="57" align="right">21.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">45</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.47</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td width="57" align="right">20.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">60</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td width="57" align="right">34.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">120</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td width="57" align="right">46.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">180</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td width="57" align="right">54.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">240</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">78.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">360</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Purple Firefish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">580.75</td>
<td width="70" align="right">2880</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">81.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">480</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Flame Angelfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">89.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">600</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td width="57" align="right">124.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1080</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Longnose Butterfly</td>
<td width="57" align="right">165.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1440</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Mandarin</td>
<td width="57" align="right">125.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1200</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td width="57" align="right">99.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">960</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">72.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">720</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Golden Puffer</td>
<td width="57" align="right">423.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">4320</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td width="57" align="right">133.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1440</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Damsel</td>
<td width="57" align="right">195.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">2160</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blue Spot Grouper</td>
<td width="57" align="right">253.00</td>
<td width="70" align="right">2880</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Parrotfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">76.50</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1440</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.05</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Moorish Idol</td>
<td width="57" align="right">53.25</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1080</td>
<td width="81" align="right">0.05</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Blackfoot Lionfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">-67.50</td>
<td width="70" align="right">1080</td>
<td width="81" align="right">-0.06</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Orbiculate Batfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">-238.50</td>
<td width="70" align="right">360</td>
<td width="81" align="right">-0.66</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="135" height="12">Clown Triggerfish</td>
<td width="57" align="right">-149.75</td>
<td width="70" align="right">180</td>
<td width="81" align="right">-0.83</td>
</tr>
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<p><strong>Experience per Fish when you harvest at Level 1:</strong></p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="109" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td width="57"><strong>XP / Egg</strong></td>
<td width="50"><strong>XP / L1</strong></td>
<td width="79"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">1.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">1.07</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Orbiculate Batfish</td>
<td align="right">66</td>
<td align="right">330</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.92</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackfoot Lionfish</td>
<td align="right">79</td>
<td align="right">790</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.73</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Klunzinger Wrasse</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">0.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Clown Triggerfish</td>
<td align="right">23</td>
<td align="right">115</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Purple Firefish</td>
<td align="right">181</td>
<td align="right">1810</td>
<td align="right">2880</td>
<td align="right">0.63</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Parrotfish</td>
<td align="right">88</td>
<td align="right">880</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.61</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">0.44</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Moorish Idol</td>
<td align="right">47</td>
<td align="right">470</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.44</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bluedot Jawfish</td>
<td align="right">13</td>
<td align="right">65</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">40</td>
<td align="right">120</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td align="right">12</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">75</td>
<td align="right">240</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">110</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">26</td>
<td align="right">134</td>
<td align="right">480</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Flame Angelfish</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">160</td>
<td align="right">600</td>
<td align="right">0.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Butterfly</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
<td align="right">350</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td align="right">26</td>
<td align="right">260</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">17</td>
<td align="right">170</td>
<td align="right">720</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">220</td>
<td align="right">960</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">29</td>
<td align="right">290</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Damsel</td>
<td align="right">39</td>
<td align="right">390</td>
<td align="right">2160</td>
<td align="right">0.18</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Spot Grouper</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">450</td>
<td align="right">2880</td>
<td align="right">0.16</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Mandarin</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">130</td>
<td align="right">1200</td>
<td align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Golden Puffer</td>
<td align="right">42</td>
<td align="right">420</td>
<td align="right">4320</td>
<td align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Enjoy.  Happy Holidays.<strong><br />
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been distracted by Fishville lately, but the Zynga team has been busy rolling out new dishes for Café World, so I thought it was time for a new post on Café World Economics.

This post is the third in the Café World Economics series:

Café World Economics: Profit &#38; Cafe Points
Café World Economics: Updated Tables

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been distracted by Fishville lately, but the Zynga team has been busy rolling out new dishes for Café World, so I thought it was time for a new post on Café World Economics.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>This post is the third in the Café World Economics series:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Cafe Points</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
</ul>
<p>But before I get to the new tables, I did some additional analysis based on my popular Farmville post, &#8220;<a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a>&#8220;.  I&#8217;ve produced a table that ranks all the Café World dishes based on the equivalent US $ / hour wage you are valuing your real world time when you play the game.</p>
<p>In order to do this, I needed to find some additional data.  The first was <strong>an effective value of Café World coins</strong>.  To do this, I used the payment schedule that Zynga has in the game (as of 11/30/2009):</p>
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<td width="144" height="13"><strong>Café Coins</strong></td>
<td width="115"><strong>Price ($)</strong></td>
<td width="145"><strong>Coins / $</strong></td>
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<td height="13" align="right">15280</td>
<td align="right">$4.99</td>
<td align="right">3062.12</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">45240</td>
<td align="right">$9.99</td>
<td align="right">4528.53</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">125280</td>
<td align="right">$19.99</td>
<td align="right">6267.13</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">333300</td>
<td align="right">$49.99</td>
<td align="right">6667.33</td>
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<td height="13" align="right">1000000</td>
<td align="right">$149.99</td>
<td align="right">6667.11</td>
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<p>Note the wide disparity in values!  If you pay the bare minimum ($4.99), you are valuing Café World coins at 3062.12 per dollar.  But if you pay at the high end ($49.99), you get 6667.33 coins per dollar.</p>
<p>Since there is such a wide disparity of values, I decided to calculate both a high and a low estimate for my table.</p>
<p>The second new piece of data needed was the &#8220;<strong>time spent per dish</strong>&#8220;.  This is something that I left out of my initial calculations, but makes sense in this context.</p>
<p>Since all of my tables are &#8220;per dish per stove per day&#8221;, I estimated that you need to spend one (1) minute per cycle to clean the stove, buy the dish, and click through the 3 ingredients, and then get the finished dish.  This might be a tad high, but it&#8217;s in the right ballpark.</p>
<p>What this means is that a dish that takes 5 minutes to cook is now estimated to have a cycle time of 6 minutes, with 1 minute of &#8220;real world time&#8221; spent.  So, 1440 / 6 = 240, which means to cook a 5 minute dish all day you&#8217;d need to cook 240 cycles, which implies a sign up for 240 minutes of &#8220;real world time&#8221;.</p>
<p>This allowed me to do the simple algebra to weigh the profit per dish per day, in Café World coins, and then subtract the real world time, and figure out the effective &#8220;hourly wage&#8221; of each dish.</p>
<p>As it turns out, whether you use the high value or low value for coins, the sort order is the same.  Here are all Café World dishes, sorted by &#8220;hourly wage&#8221;:</p>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="134" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="123"><strong>Hourly Wage (high)</strong></td>
<td width="115"><strong>Hourly Wage (low)</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">$199.57</td>
<td align="right">$91.66</td>
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<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">$148.62</td>
<td align="right">$68.26</td>
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<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">$105.22</td>
<td align="right">$48.33</td>
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<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$78.08</td>
<td align="right">$35.86</td>
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<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">$77.10</td>
<td align="right">$35.41</td>
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<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">$74.16</td>
<td align="right">$34.06</td>
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<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">$67.31</td>
<td align="right">$30.91</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">$58.49</td>
<td align="right">$26.86</td>
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<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">$56.53</td>
<td align="right">$25.96</td>
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<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">$52.61</td>
<td align="right">$24.16</td>
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<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">$50.65</td>
<td align="right">$23.26</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">$38.40</td>
<td align="right">$17.64</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">$34.98</td>
<td align="right">$16.06</td>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">$33.21</td>
<td align="right">$15.25</td>
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<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">$29.10</td>
<td align="right">$13.36</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">$26.55</td>
<td align="right">$12.19</td>
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<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">$24.20</td>
<td align="right">$11.11</td>
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<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">$19.30</td>
<td align="right">$8.86</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">$17.83</td>
<td align="right">$8.19</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">$17.34</td>
<td align="right">$7.96</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">$16.56</td>
<td align="right">$7.60</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">$11.66</td>
<td align="right">$5.35</td>
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<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">$9.60</td>
<td align="right">$4.41</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">$8.33</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">$3.82</td>
<td align="right">$1.75</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">$2.65</td>
<td align="right">$1.21</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">$2.55</td>
<td align="right">$1.17</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">$1.33</td>
<td align="right">$0.61</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">$1.31</td>
<td align="right">$0.60</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">$0.98</td>
<td align="right">$0.45</td>
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<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">$0.55</td>
<td align="right">$0.25</td>
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<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">$0.43</td>
<td align="right">$0.20</td>
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<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">$0.22</td>
<td align="right">$0.10</td>
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<p>Now, these figures are a little misleading, because the dishes that result in high profit (like the Impossible Quiche) and that have long cycle times result in very low amounts of real world time.  As a result, if you can make $2 in a minute, you effectively get $120/hour.  Still, it makes a point.  If you are trying to minimize time spent in Café World for maximum profit, this is a pretty good list to go by.</p>
<p>First thing you&#8217;ll notice, is that Chips &amp; Guacamole may build your Café World coin stash, but they are not valuing your time very highly.  In fact, <strong>you have to get to Kung Pao Stir Fry to break above the living wage</strong> in California, at the low valuation for coins.</p>
<p>However<strong>, it also shows that the economics of these coin values are unsustainable.</strong> If Zynga allowed people to convert coins to US $ at these rates, then the value of opening up 50 Facebook accounts and cooking Impossible Quiche all day would beat most jobs.  ($200/hour = approx $400K per year!)</p>
<p>Just one of the interesting things you find when you crunch the numbers.</p>
<p>For those of you looking for updated tables with the new dishes, see below.</p>
<p>Café World dishes, sorted by profit per dish per day:</p>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
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<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">5888.6</td>
<td align="right">245.4</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">5420.0</td>
<td align="right">225.8</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">5355.0</td>
<td align="right">223.1</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">4760.0</td>
<td align="right">198.3</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">4455.0</td>
<td align="right">185.6</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">4320.0</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">3985.0</td>
<td align="right">166.0</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">3792.5</td>
<td align="right">158.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">3785.0</td>
<td align="right">157.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">3580.0</td>
<td align="right">149.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">3147.3</td>
<td align="right">131.1</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">2730.0</td>
<td align="right">113.8</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
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<p>Café World dishes, sorted by Café World points per dish per day:</p>
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<tr>
<td width="132" height="13">Dish</td>
<td width="75">CP / Day</td>
<td width="75">CP / Hour</td>
<td width="84">Min Per Cycle</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Buttermilk Pancakes</td>
<td align="right">992.0</td>
<td align="right">41.3</td>
<td align="right">45.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shu Mai Dumplings</td>
<td align="right">624.0</td>
<td align="right">26.0</td>
<td align="right">360.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavish Lamb Curry</td>
<td align="right">600.0</td>
<td align="right">25.0</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Atomic Buffalo Wings</td>
<td align="right">544.0</td>
<td align="right">22.7</td>
<td align="right">180.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Delicious Chocolate Cake</td>
<td align="right">468.0</td>
<td align="right">19.5</td>
<td align="right">840.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Savory Stuffed Turkey</td>
<td align="right">439.6</td>
<td align="right">18.3</td>
<td align="right">1320.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">403.0</td>
<td align="right">16.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tostada de Carne Asada</td>
<td align="right">369.0</td>
<td align="right">15.4</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">225.0</td>
<td align="right">9.4</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">221.3</td>
<td align="right">9.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Pot Pie</td>
<td align="right">153.5</td>
<td align="right">6.4</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: I&#8217;ve now published updated information on Cafe World Economics.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
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		<title>Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 2</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The traffic to my blog from my first Fishville post has been staggering.  How can I resist?  That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP).  Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The traffic to my blog from <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/12/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels/" target="_blank">my first Fishville post</a> has been staggering.  How can I resist?  That&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s time for Yet Another Fishville Post (YAFP).  Come on, you know you want to read more&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1316" title="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png?w=300&#038;h=179" alt="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" width="300" height="179" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a little surprised to see how few accurate blog posts exist out on the web that break down the profit &amp; experience for Fishville.  Based on comments to my original post, I made some mistakes.  As a result, I&#8217;m posting this follow up to help address the most common concerns:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>What about Level 5 (and 6 and 7&#8230;). </strong> I classify my charts based on the completion of levels, which is a little confusing because in Fishville, your fish is &#8220;Level 1&#8243; until it completes the level, and then it is Level 2, etc.  As a result, you don&#8217;t get the &#8220;Level 1&#8243; experience until your fish reaches Level 2.  Confusing.  Even more confusing, after completing Level 4, your fish can continue to go up levels&#8230; it just won&#8217;t be worth anything more.  As a result, I ignore all levels above 4.</li>
<li><strong>Why doesn&#8217;t my experience number match yours?</strong> It&#8217;s because I&#8217;m including the experience you get from dropping the egg in the tank, not just the experience you get from harvesting.</li>
<li><strong>Level 4 doesn&#8217;t take the same time as the other levels. </strong> Oops.  This is correct.  I still don&#8217;t have accurate info on whether the &#8220;Level 4&#8243; time is the same for all fish (2 days) or different.  For this post, I use the 2 day number, which changes the economics considerably.  (Hint: It&#8217;s not worth your time to ever let this happen)</li>
<li><strong>Can you post a Google Doc of all your tables &amp; charts? </strong> See the end of this post.  First time for everything.</li>
</ul>
<p>To recap, here are the assumptions for my tables &amp; charts:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>I assume harvesting &amp; buying fish is instantaneous.</strong> Yes, I know its not.  Fodder for a future post.</li>
<li><strong>All profits are calculated per fish. </strong> Same with experience</li>
<li><strong>Total Experience</strong> = Experience from dropping egg + Experience from the level(s) of growth</li>
<li><strong>Total Profit</strong> = Revenue from harvesting the fist &#8211; Cost of the egg</li>
</ol>
<p>In my last post, I described how your &#8220;profit per minute&#8221; increases with levels, but your &#8220;experience per minute&#8221; falls with levels.  A lot of people didn&#8217;t understand this, so I decided to try some charts to illustrate.</p>
<p>Here is a chart I made in Google Docs showing the effect of increasing levels on Profit / Minute.  Because there is a fixed cost to buying a new fish, the linear increase in profit per level helps your profit / minute.  Of course, it falls off a cliff once you hit Level 4, and it takes up to 2 days to complete.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-profit-per-minute-per-level.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1322" style="border:0 none;" title="Fishville Profit Per Minute Per Level" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-profit-per-minute-per-level.png?w=400&#038;h=187" alt="Fishville Profit Per Minute Per Level" width="400" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">This means that, from a profit per minute perspective, it&#8217;s better to let your fish grow to complete Level 1, Level 2, and Level 3 before harvesting.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">But there is a catch.  Because you get XP every time to buy an egg, the effect on experience points per minute is the opposite.  Every level you go, your experience points per minute drops!  See this chart to visualize:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-xp-per-minute-per-level.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1323" style="border:0 none;" title="Fishville XP Per Minute Per Level" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/fishville-xp-per-minute-per-level.png?w=400&#038;h=187" alt="Fishville XP Per Minute Per Level" width="400" height="187" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Based on the comments to my original blog post, it&#8217;s very obvious that most players continue to ignore the experience points you get for dropping an egg in your tank &#8211; choosing instead to focus only on the experience points you get when you harvest the fish.  Big mistake, because this leads you to keep fish around too long.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Since my last post, I&#8217;ve also been able to complete my tables for all current fish.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Here is the profit table for Level 1 profits:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="67"></col>
<col width="79"></col>
<col width="92"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="67"><strong>Profit / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="79"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">7</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">2.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">11</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">2.2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">23</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">1.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Inland Silverside</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">0.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td align="right">21</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">0.47</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">17</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">34</td>
<td align="right">120</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td align="right">46</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.26</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">54</td>
<td align="right">240</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td align="right">78</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">81</td>
<td align="right">480</td>
<td align="right">0.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Annularis Angelfish</td>
<td align="right">89</td>
<td align="right">600</td>
<td align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td align="right">124</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.11</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">99</td>
<td align="right">960</td>
<td align="right">0.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">72</td>
<td align="right">720</td>
<td align="right">0.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">133</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Damsel</td>
<td align="right">195</td>
<td align="right">2160</td>
<td align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p style="text-align:left;">Here is the experience table for Level 1 experience.  Note that I included the experience you get for dropping the egg, as well as the total experience you get for completing level 1.  Remember, <strong>Total = Dropping Egg + Level XP</strong>:</p>
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<col width="57"></col>
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<col width="79"></col>
<col width="75"></col>
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<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="57"><strong>XP / Egg</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="50"><strong>XP / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="79"><strong>Minutes / L1</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">1.6</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">1.07</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Inland Silverside</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">30</td>
<td align="right">0.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bartlett Anthias</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">45</td>
<td align="right">0.44</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pajama Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">40</td>
<td align="right">120</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Green Chromis</td>
<td align="right">12</td>
<td align="right">60</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">15</td>
<td align="right">75</td>
<td align="right">240</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Longnose Hawkfish</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">110</td>
<td align="right">360</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">27</td>
<td align="right">135</td>
<td align="right">480</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Annularis Angelfish</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">160</td>
<td align="right">600</td>
<td align="right">0.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">17</td>
<td align="right">170</td>
<td align="right">720</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">220</td>
<td align="right">960</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">29</td>
<td align="right">290</td>
<td align="right">1440</td>
<td align="right">0.2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Damsel</td>
<td align="right">39</td>
<td align="right">390</td>
<td align="right">2160</td>
<td align="right">0.18</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blue Hippo Tang</td>
<td align="right">26</td>
<td align="right">52</td>
<td align="right">1080</td>
<td align="right">0.05</td>
</tr>
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</table>
<p>As promised, here is a<a href="http://bit.ly/fishville_stats" target="_blank"> link to the Google Doc with all my tables and charts</a>.  Please post additional info, corrections, or data in the comments below.</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>:  I&#8217;ve now posted additional columns on Fishville:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/24/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-3/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 3</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Zynga addiction clearly knows no bounds.  Last week, Zynga launched a new game called Fishville, and clearly at this point I have no ability to resist any new Zynga game.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Zynga addiction clearly knows no bounds.  Last week, Zynga launched a new game called Fishville, and clearly at this point I have no ability to resist any new Zynga game.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1316" title="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/screen-shot-2009-11-12-at-12-57-13-am.png?w=300&#038;h=179" alt="Screen shot 2009-11-12 at 12.57.13 AM" width="300" height="179" /></a>Fishville has a deceptively simple frame:  you have a fish tank, and you buy fish eggs for it.  The fish hatch, you feed them, and then when they are fully grown, you sell them for profit.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">What I&#8217;ve found most interesting about the game is the new dimensions they are exploring in the economics of the game.  Fishville adds a couple distinguishing twists versus Farmville or Café World:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Multiple Tanks. </strong>How many people wish they had more than one farm in Farmville?  In Fishville, Zynga has two types of expansion &#8211; the ability to put more fish in a single tank and the ability to buy new tanks.  This may not seem relevant from a structural standpoint &#8211; after all whether you add 20 fish to one tank or 10 to 2 tanks shouldn&#8217;t matter &#8211; but it should create a new dynamic around buying virtual goods to decorate different tanks.</li>
<li><strong>Harvest Levels. </strong>This is the real twist to the economics.  Fish grow up in stages, up to four levels.  The revenue in coins and the experience you get goes up linearly with each level.  So if you have a 4 hour fish, you can harvest them at 4 hours at Level 1, or 16 hours at Level 4.  You still have to feed them or they die (similar to withering crops in Farmville), but you don&#8217;t need to &#8220;replant&#8221;.</li>
</ol>
<p>The Harvest Levels have the most impact on the game economics.  In financial terms, each fish now has a fixed cost and a variable cost, as well as a fixed experience pay-off and variable experience pay-off.</p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s take the Mini Dart Goby, the first fish.</p>
<p>The Goby costs 7 coins for an egg.  That&#8217;s a fixed cost.  If you grow it to Level 1, you&#8217;ll get 18 coins, for a profit of 11 coins.  Easy, right?  Hold on.  If you wait until Level 4, you&#8217;ll get 72 coins over that same 7 coin cost, for a profit of 65 coins.</p>
<p>The fixed cost means that your &#8220;profitability&#8221; or &#8220;profit / minute&#8221; goes up the longer you wait to harvest.</p>
<p>Seems like a no-brainer to wait until Level 4?  Not so fast.</p>
<p>With Experience Points, the math works in reverse.</p>
<p>The Mini Dart Goby gives you 2 XP for dropping the egg.  At Level 1, you&#8217;ll get 8 XP, for a total of 10 XP.  But if you wait until Level 4, you&#8217;ll get 32 XP, for a total of 34 XP of the time period.  In this case, your &#8220;XP / Minute&#8221; goes down the longer you wait to harvest.</p>
<p>It gets even harder.</p>
<p>You can harvest a fish in-between levels&#8230; but you <strong>don&#8217;t get any credit</strong> for the time between levels.  So if you are half-way between levels, your &#8220;profit / minute&#8221; and &#8220;experience / minute&#8221; will be <strong>terrible</strong>.  In fact, the math says you need to harvest at level boundaries pretty closely.  (I think in a future blog post, I&#8217;ll graph this.)</p>
<p>For now, here are some tables I&#8217;ve made for the fish I have data on.  Unfortunately, this game is so new, I can&#8217;t find any guides online with data for all fish.  Special thanks to <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/erinhoffmann" target="_blank">Erin Hoffmann</a>, who serves as both data provider and my toughest competitor in Fishville.</p>
<p>The most interesting aspect to these tables is that while the profitability / minute rises for each level, Zynga has kept the fixed costs proportional enough that the ranking of the fish does not change significantly between 1 level or 4 levels.</p>
<p>Here is the profitability of different fish at Level 1:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="121"></col>
<col width="92"></col>
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<tr>
<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="109"><strong>Profit / One Level</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="121"><strong>Minutes / One Level</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">7.00</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">2.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">11.00</td>
<td align="right">5.00</td>
<td align="right">2.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">23.00</td>
<td align="right">15.00</td>
<td align="right">1.53</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">17.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">81.00</td>
<td align="right">480.00</td>
<td align="right">0.17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">99.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
<td align="right">720.00</td>
<td align="right">0.10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">133.00</td>
<td align="right">1440.00</td>
<td align="right">0.09</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here is the profitability of different fish at Level 4:</p>
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<col width="118"></col>
<col width="131"></col>
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<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="118"><strong>Profit / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="131"><strong>Minutes / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>Profit / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">43.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">3.58</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
<td align="right">20.00</td>
<td align="right">3.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">137.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">2.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">98.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.41</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">321.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">468.00</td>
<td align="right">1920.00</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">432.00</td>
<td align="right">2880.00</td>
<td align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">567.00</td>
<td align="right">3840.00</td>
<td align="right">0.15</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">796.00</td>
<td align="right">5760.00</td>
<td align="right">0.14</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Here is the experience productivity of different fish at Level 1:</p>
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<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="109"><strong>XP / One Level</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="121"><strong>Min / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">5.00</td>
<td align="right">1.60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">1.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
<td align="right">15.00</td>
<td align="right">1.07</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">20.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">0.33</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">75.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.31</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">135.00</td>
<td align="right">480.00</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
<td align="right">720.00</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">220.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.23</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">290.00</td>
<td align="right">1440.00</td>
<td align="right">0.20</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Here is the experience productivity of different fish at Level 4:</p>
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<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="446"><!--StartFragment--></p>
<col width="105"></col>
<col width="118"></col>
<col width="131"></col>
<col width="92"></col>
<tbody>
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<td width="105" height="13"><strong>Fish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="118"><strong>XP / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="131"><strong>Min / Four Levels</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="92"><strong>XP / Minute</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Mini Dart Goby</td>
<td align="right">26.00</td>
<td align="right">20.00</td>
<td align="right">1.30</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sardine</td>
<td align="right">13.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">1.08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Spot Cardinal</td>
<td align="right">52.00</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
<td align="right">0.87</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Swissguard Basslet</td>
<td align="right">68.00</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
<td align="right">0.28</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Shy Hamlet</td>
<td align="right">255.00</td>
<td align="right">960.00</td>
<td align="right">0.27</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Percula Clownfish</td>
<td align="right">459.00</td>
<td align="right">1920.00</td>
<td align="right">0.24</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Hawaiian Hogfish</td>
<td align="right">629.00</td>
<td align="right">2880.00</td>
<td align="right">0.22</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Royal Dottyback</td>
<td align="right">814.00</td>
<td align="right">3840.00</td>
<td align="right">0.21</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Scooter Blenny</td>
<td align="right">1073.00</td>
<td align="right">5760.00</td>
<td align="right">0.19</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to help, I&#8217;m missing data for the following fish:</p>
<ul>
<li>Blue Damsel</li>
<li>Inland Silverside</li>
<li>Pajama Cardinal</li>
<li>Longnose Hawkfish</li>
<li>Annularis Angelfish</li>
<li>Blue Spot Grouper</li>
<li>Blue Hippo Tang</li>
<li>Bartlett Anthias</li>
</ul>
<p>For each, please leave a comment with:</p>
<ul>
<li>XP / Egg</li>
<li>Revenue / Level</li>
<li>XP / Level</li>
<li>Minutes / Level</li>
</ul>
<p>Hope this helps the new Fishville players out there.  Enjoy.</p>
<p><strong>Update (11/14/2009): </strong> New blog post coming tomorrow, with updated tables and new info.  Also, fixing the issue around the whole &#8220;Level 4/Adult&#8221; confusion, and publishing a Google Doc to help others benefit from the raw data.  I&#8217;m still finding that people are ignoring the XP from the dropping of the egg, and only focusing on the XP from harvesting, so I&#8217;ll update tables to make that more clear.</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>:  I&#8217;ve now posted additional columns on Fishville:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/16/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-2/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/24/fishville-economics-points-experience-levels-part-3/" target="_blank">Fishville Economics: Points, Experience &amp; Levels Part 3</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really haven&#8217;t had enough time to write the second post I had been planning on Buzz measurements and the profitability by unit time of different dishes.  So, instead, this week I&#8217;m posting updated tables for some of the new dishes that Zynga has rolled out.  (Still looking for an accurate breakdown of CP for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1312&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really haven&#8217;t had enough time to write the second post I had been planning on Buzz measurements and the profitability by unit time of different dishes.  So, instead, this week I&#8217;m posting updated tables for some of the new dishes that Zynga has rolled out.  (Still looking for an accurate breakdown of CP for Impossible Quiche, BTW.  I&#8217;m only at Level 25 myself&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>This is the second post in my Café World Economics series.  The first one is here:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/26/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Here are my Café World tables, updated for the three new dishes Zynga rolled out last week.</p>
<p>First, the table of dishes, sorted by total profit per day:</p>
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<col width="80"></col>
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<tr>
<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">3985.0</td>
<td align="right">166.0</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">3785.0</td>
<td align="right">157.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">3580.0</td>
<td align="right">149.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">2730.0</td>
<td align="right">113.8</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here is the second table, dishes sorted by Café Points per Day:</p>
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<col width="132"></col>
<col span="2" width="75"></col>
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<tbody>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>CP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>CP / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grand Tandoori Chicken</td>
<td align="right">403.0</td>
<td align="right">16.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Herbed Halibut</td>
<td align="right">225.0</td>
<td align="right">9.4</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Crackling Peking Duck</td>
<td align="right">221.3</td>
<td align="right">9.2</td>
<td align="right">1080.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>As per some of the comments, I&#8217;ve realized that there is an overhead in time for setting up a dish.  It&#8217;s likely small (15-20s), but still, that&#8217;s a material increase on a 5 minute dish.  I&#8217;ll provide that update in a future post.</p>
<p>In truth, I had hoped to have my first FishVille Economics post up by now.  Unfortunately, the little spat between Zynga &amp; Facebook seems to have precluded it for now.  Fishville has been down all day.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  New Café World Economics posts are available:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
</ul>
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		<title>Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zynga launched several new crops this week: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, and Acorn Squash, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there.  So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP).

For quick reference, here are the links to my first seven Farmville posts:

The Personal Economics of Farmville
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zynga launched several new crops this week: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, and Acorn Squash, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there.  So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP).</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>For quick reference, here are the links to my first seven Farmville posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are Almost Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/25/farmville-economics-flowers-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;ve updated my tables to include the new crops.  You&#8217;ll notice that none of the new crops are significantly differentiated by either experience or profit.</p>
<p>Please remember, all tables normalize the values for one square per day (24 hour day), and include the cost and experience involved with plowing the square per cycle.</p>
<p>Here are the crops, ranked by Profit / Day:</p>
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<col width="105"></col>
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<td style="text-align:left;" width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">183.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">177.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">176.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">170.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">166.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">164.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">163.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">120.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">116.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">104.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">100.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">67.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">59.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">30.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here are the crops ranked by Experience / Day:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="58"></col>
<col width="85"></col>
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<tr>
<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="58"><strong>XP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="85"><strong>Cycle (Hours)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">4.50</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Here are the crops ranked by Profit + Experience / Day (using 15 coins for XP value):</p>
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<col width="175"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">342.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">284.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">267.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">250.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">242.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">236.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">235.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">226.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">215.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">204.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">200.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">160.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">139.20</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">139.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">127.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">114.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">82.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">52.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
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<p>And here are the crops by Risk Adjusted Profit / Day:</p>
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<td width="93" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="157"><strong>Risk-Adjusted Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="148"><strong>Risk of Complete Default</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">226.53</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">217.37</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">206.37</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">201.57</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">195.82</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">185.57</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">181.47</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lavendar</td>
<td align="right">165.80</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">154.22</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">153.58</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">153.35</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">142.52</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">135.58</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">130.15</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">126.03</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">125.98</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">123.93</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Acorn Squash</td>
<td align="right">122.29</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pattypan Squash</td>
<td align="right">122.23</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">117.11</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">115.57</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">115.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.40</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.27</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">109.43</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">107.05</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">99.87</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">91.44</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">80.30</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">79.19</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">78.89</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">77.22</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">74.87</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">72.46</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cranberries</td>
<td align="right">72.37</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">68.82</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">68.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">67.61</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">60.71</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">60.47</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">56.35</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">52.43</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">38.19</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></tbody>
</table>
<p>Enjoy.  Happy Farming.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose it was inevitable.  There comes a point when you have reached a level of wealth in Farmville where you can buy anything (even the Villa).  A point when you have enough experience that you can plant any crop.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it was inevitable.  There comes a point when you have reached a level of wealth in Farmville where you can buy anything (even the Villa).  A point when you have enough experience that you can plant any crop.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s natural at that point for the eye to wander, seeking out the next great Zynga game.  And for me, that happened a little over a week ago when I decided to take the plunge into Cafe World.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=cafeworld" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1289" title="gameBig_cafeworld" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gamebig_cafeworld.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_cafeworld" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Cafe World has a number of elements that I had originally suggested for Farmville:  animated sims, shorter time spans, more functional enhancements.  It&#8217;s a much more complicated simulation, and as a result, it took me quite a bit longer to get the hang of it.</p>
<p>There are a few very interesting new aspects to the game that make modeling the economics difficult.  Expect future posts from me on how to model &#8220;The Buzz Factor&#8221;, which affects the velocity that your food is consumed over time, and how to model &#8220;Spoilage&#8221;, which is similar to Farmville but more absolute.</p>
<p>A couple quick tips, for the fans out there:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your Buzz Rating drops by 1.0 for every customer who comes in and leaves without food.  The minimum is 5.0, the maximum is 105.0.  There are two ways to preserve it, however.  First, when you run out of food, remove the doors on your restaurant.  This will close the cafe, and keep your Buzz rating flat.  Second, your buzz rating will not fall if you are not actually running the game.  That means it&#8217;s safe to run out of food, as long as you aren&#8217;t watching&#8230;</li>
<li>If you block your waiter(s) in, then they will serve the food infinitely fast.  This is just like the Farmer trick from Farmville.  I highly recommend doing this with the three serving stations against a corner.  One warning &#8211; for this to work, you need to give the waiter/waitress *two* squares of freedom.  With just one, it doesn&#8217;t seem to work.</li>
</ul>
<p>To get things started, however, I thought I&#8217;d just run the simple numbers on profitability and experience for each recipe.  I found elements of this information on various posts across the web.  (Here is one from <a href="http://www.cafeworldstrategy.com/2009/10/cafe-world-recipe-guide-strategy-and.html" target="_blank">Cafe World Strategy</a>.  Here is another from <a href="http://www.cyberanto.com/2009/10/cafe-world-dishes/" target="_blank">Cyberanto</a>.  This one was the best, from <a href="http://www.silvy-ariyanti.com/games/cook-your-best-dishes-on-cafe-world-game-facebook/" target="_blank">Simple Think</a>.)  Unfortunately, no one seems to know the Café Points experience breakdown between preparing &amp; serving the Impossible Quiche&#8230; I guess no one is at that level yet. (I had to guess in my table).</p>
<p>First, profitability.  Each dish below is normalized as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li>All values are normalized for a 24 hours day</li>
<li>A &#8220;cycle&#8221; is based on cooking time, but includes the cost &amp; cafe points for cleaning the oven once</li>
<li>I assume an infinitely fast player for cleaning/preparing/serving</li>
</ul>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="80"><strong>Profit / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
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<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">6336.0</td>
<td align="right">264.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">5970.0</td>
<td align="right">248.8</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">5910.0</td>
<td align="right">246.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">5880.0</td>
<td align="right">245.0</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">5370.0</td>
<td align="right">223.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">5280.0</td>
<td align="right">220.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">5092.5</td>
<td align="right">212.2</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">4824.0</td>
<td align="right">201.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">4800.0</td>
<td align="right">200.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">4248.0</td>
<td align="right">177.0</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">4032.0</td>
<td align="right">168.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">3920.0</td>
<td align="right">163.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">3264.0</td>
<td align="right">136.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">3255.0</td>
<td align="right">135.6</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">3120.0</td>
<td align="right">130.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">2585.0</td>
<td align="right">107.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">2550.0</td>
<td align="right">106.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">2470.0</td>
<td align="right">102.9</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">2340.0</td>
<td align="right">97.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">1967.5</td>
<td align="right">82.0</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">1695.0</td>
<td align="right">70.6</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">1690.0</td>
<td align="right">70.4</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
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<p>The next table shows the same information, but for Café Points instead of profit.  This is more useful if your primary concern is &#8220;leveling up&#8221;.</p>
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<col width="80"></col>
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<td width="132" height="13"><strong>Dish</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="75"><strong>CP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="80"><strong>CP / Hour</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="84"><strong>Min Per Cycle</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Bacon Cheeseburger</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chicken Gyro and Fries</td>
<td align="right">2016.0</td>
<td align="right">84.0</td>
<td align="right">10.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Chips and Guacamole</td>
<td align="right">1920.0</td>
<td align="right">80.0</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Powdered French Toast</td>
<td align="right">1512.0</td>
<td align="right">63.0</td>
<td align="right">20.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Chunk Fruit Salad</td>
<td align="right">1344.0</td>
<td align="right">56.0</td>
<td align="right">15.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Jumbo Shrimp Cocktail</td>
<td align="right">1008.0</td>
<td align="right">42.0</td>
<td align="right">30.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Fiery Fish Tacos</td>
<td align="right">588.0</td>
<td align="right">24.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tikka Masala Kabobs</td>
<td align="right">528.0</td>
<td align="right">22.0</td>
<td align="right">60.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Kung Pao Stir Fry</td>
<td align="right">450.0</td>
<td align="right">18.8</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Caramel Apples</td>
<td align="right">420.0</td>
<td align="right">17.5</td>
<td align="right">120.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Overstuffed Peppers</td>
<td align="right">412.0</td>
<td align="right">17.2</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">French Onion Soup</td>
<td align="right">366.0</td>
<td align="right">15.3</td>
<td align="right">240.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Voodoo Chicken Salad</td>
<td align="right">336.0</td>
<td align="right">14.0</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tony&#8217;s Classic Pizza</td>
<td align="right">326.4</td>
<td align="right">13.6</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spaghetti and Meatballs</td>
<td align="right">300.0</td>
<td align="right">12.5</td>
<td align="right">480.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Triple Berry Cheesecake</td>
<td align="right">280.0</td>
<td align="right">11.7</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">King Crab Bisque</td>
<td align="right">252.0</td>
<td align="right">10.5</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Spitfire Roasted Chicken</td>
<td align="right">210.0</td>
<td align="right">8.8</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Impossible Quiche</td>
<td align="right">175.5</td>
<td align="right">7.3</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin Pie</td>
<td align="right">152.0</td>
<td align="right">6.3</td>
<td align="right">720.0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Homestyle Pot Roast</td>
<td align="right">139.5</td>
<td align="right">5.8</td>
<td align="right">2880.0</td>
</tr>
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<td height="13">Vampire Staked Steak</td>
<td align="right">113.0</td>
<td align="right">4.7</td>
<td align="right">1440.0</td>
</tr>
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</table>
<p>Two things seem clear to me from these tables:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Overstuffed Peppers</strong> is the dish to beat.  12 hours cooking time means you don&#8217;t have to babysit the game endlessly.  One of the most profitable, and does a fair job of building experience.</li>
<li><strong>Fast Food is King. </strong> If you have the patience and time, serving burgers can&#8217;t be beat.  All the numbers are incredibly weighted towards the foods with short cycles.  After all, when you can literally serve something 288 times in a single day, that&#8217;s a huge multiplier.</li>
</ol>
<p>In future posts, I&#8217;ll try to rebalance these numbers across risk of spoilage and personal time value, to bring some sense to the madness.  I can tell already, however, that the Overstuffed Peppers is going to be the best balance of time &amp; profit.  Of course, my cafe is still dawdling at Level 14&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  New Café World Economics posts are available:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/09/cafe-world-economics-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/12/02/cafe-world-economics-real-world-hourly-wages/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Real World Hourly Wages</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/02/cafe-world-economics-profit-cafe-points-2010-edition/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Profit &amp; Café Points (2010 Edition)</a>﻿﻿</li>
<li>﻿﻿<a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2010/01/11/cafe-world-economics-alien-invasion-google-docs/" target="_blank">Café World Economics: Alien Invasion &amp; Google Docs</a></li>
</ul>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zynga launched several new crops this week in the form of cut flowers, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there.  So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP).

For quick reference, here are the links to my first six Farmville posts:

The Personal Economics of Farmville
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zynga launched several new crops this week in the form of cut flowers, so I thought I&#8217;d update my tables for active players out there.  So yes, this is Yet Another Farmville Post (YAFP).</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>For quick reference, here are the links to my first six Farmville posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are Almost Genius</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;ve updated my tables to include both Sweet Seeds and the new cut flowers.  You&#8217;ll notice that, as per my last post, Sweets Seeds really aren&#8217;t as good as they should be.  At least, it&#8217;s not clear to me why Super Berries were so much better.</p>
<p>Please remember, all tables normalize the values for one square per day (24 hour day), and include the cost and experience involved with plowing the square per cycle.</p>
<p>Here are the crops, ranked by Profit / Day:</p>
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<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
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<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">183.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">177.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">176.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">170.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">166.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">164.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">116.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">104.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">100.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">59.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">30.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
</table>
<p>Here are the crops ranked by Experience per Day:</p>
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<col width="109"></col>
<col width="58"></col>
<col width="85"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="58"><strong>XP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="85"><strong>Cycle (Hours)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">4.50</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
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<p>Here are the crops ranked by a sum of profit and experience per day (see previous posts for why I ascribe 15 coins to the value of one point of experience):</p>
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<col width="75"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">342.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">284.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">267.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">250.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">242.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">236.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">226.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">215.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">204.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">200.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">160.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">139.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">127.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">114.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">82.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">52.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></p>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>And finally, the most important table: Risk Adjusted Profitability.  This takes into account the risk of spoilage and the time it takes for each crop to harvest.  I&#8217;ve found this to be the best table to answer the question of &#8220;what should you plant&#8221;:</p>
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<col width="75"></col>
<col width="157"></col>
<col width="148"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="157"><strong>Risk-Adjusted Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="148"><strong>Risk of Complete Default</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">226.53</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">217.37</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">206.37</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">201.57</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Lillies</td>
<td align="right">195.82</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">185.57</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">181.47</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">165.80</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">154.22</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sweet Seeds</td>
<td align="right">153.58</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">153.35</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">142.52</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">135.58</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">130.15</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">126.03</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">125.98</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">123.93</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">117.11</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">115.57</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">115.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.40</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.27</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Tulips</td>
<td align="right">109.43</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pink Roses</td>
<td align="right">107.05</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">99.87</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Ghost Chili</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">91.44</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">80.30</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">79.19</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">78.89</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">77.22</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">74.87</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">72.46</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">68.82</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Daffodils</td>
<td align="right">68.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">67.61</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">60.71</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">60.47</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">56.35</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">52.43</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">38.19</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></p>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>Stay tuned for my next post, my very first on Café World, my new Zynga addiction.  Very different simulation &amp; economics, and should be good for a few interesting analytical posts.</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted follow-on posts about Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
</ul>
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		<title>Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are Almost Genius&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zynga launched a great promotion this weekend called &#8220;Sweet Seeds&#8221;, and I thought it deserved at least a little direct attention.  So yes, this is &#8220;yet another Farmville post&#8221; (YAFP).

For quick reference, here are the links to my first five Farmville posts:

The Personal Economics of Farmville
The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2
More Farmville Economics
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zynga launched a great promotion this weekend called &#8220;Sweet Seeds&#8221;, and I thought it deserved at least a little direct attention.  So yes, this is &#8220;yet another Farmville post&#8221; (YAFP).</p>
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<p>For quick reference, here are the links to my first five Farmville posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
</ul>
<p>A brief description from <a href="http://www.farmvillevillage.com/index.php/2009/10/02/new-feature-sweet-seeds-for-haiti/" target="_blank">Farmville Village</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Zynga has just launched “Sweet Seeds for Haiti” a special FarmCash crop you can buy with 50% of the proceeds going to charity. These plants are unique in that they never wither and give maximum experience points, with a special gift in your gift box for you, too!</p></blockquote>
<p>My first reaction to this announcement was &#8220;Genius!&#8221;   Not to be cynical, but Zynga seemed to have a pattern of rolling out crops with superior economics and rapid turnarounds to help drive huge activity spikes.  (The Super Berries in August, for example, were well timed with a surge over 10M daily active users.)</p>
<p>By rolling out a super-charged crop for charity, they could get the benefit of increased activity <strong>and</strong> funnel money to a deserving cause.  Win-win.  It seemed like a brilliant approach to match up business &amp; altruistic goals, and set forward a powerful concept of buying virtual goods as a mechanism for charitable fundraising.</p>
<p>In fact, at first, the only thing that surprised me a bit was that only 50% of the money was going to charity.  I suppose there might be some costs associated with payment processing and handling the operational surge of activity.  Typically, however, if you are going for a charity, you tend to absorb those costs to avoid the appearance of profiting from people who are looking to donate to a good cause.</p>
<p>Then I actually looked at the economics for Sweet Potatoes.  And I was left scratching my head.</p>
<p>The stats for Sweet Potatoes are as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li>3 XP</li>
<li>10 coins to plant</li>
<li>125 coins at harvest</li>
</ul>
<p>By itself, these statistics would make Sweet Potatoes truly a super crop, except for one detail:</p>
<ul>
<li>1 day to grow</li>
</ul>
<p>115 Coins of profit per day puts Sweet Potatoes between Broccoli &amp; Cabbage for daily profit, #16 on <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">the table I published last week</a>.  Really not very super.  Super Berries had huge numbers because they could be harvested every 2 hours.  But a full day?  You&#8217;d do better on experience and profit planting almost any of the 8 hour (or faster growing) crops.</p>
<p>3XP (+1XP for plowing) does compare favorably with all daily crops, except for Peas.  Peas offer:</p>
<ul>
<li>3 XP</li>
<li>176 coins of profit / day</li>
</ul>
<p>As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no reason you would plant Sweet Potatoes if you already have Peas.  None.  And it certainly wouldn&#8217;t be worth $5 (25 FV) to do so.  True, this crop doesn&#8217;t whither&#8230; but that just makes the activity goal even more unlikely.</p>
<p>All this would be different if the crop took 4 hours to grow instead of a day.  But with the current numbers, planting Sweet Potatoes just doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to hazard a few guesses as to why Zynga set these numbers here:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Theory 1: </strong> They didn&#8217;t care about people at higher levels.  Of my 50 neighbors, only one is at a level where they can buy Peas. So these numbers would look good to at least 98% of the audience.</li>
<li><strong>Theory 2: </strong> The target market is sensitive to time.  The 1 day cycle and removal of withering suggests that they were targeting a segment of users that don&#8217;t want to spend all day planting &amp; harvesting.</li>
<li><strong>Theory 3:</strong> The load generated by Farmville has been so high on Zynga given it&#8217;s phenomenal success, they decided last minute to extend the growing time to a day, to minimize activity for a period of time.  In a way, the Sweet Potatoes are Bizarro Super Berries, working to diminish activity, instead of encourage it.</li>
<li><strong>Theory 4:</strong> They didn&#8217;t run the numbers on the economics.  (I find this impossible to believe.)</li>
</ul>
<p>I still believe the concept behind the Sweet Seeds announcement incredibly sharp.  Plenty of time and opportunity for Zynga to tune these type of events going forward.</p>
<p>Almost genius.  Almost.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  Here are additional posts on Farmville Economics, published after this one:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/25/farmville-economics-flowers-updated-tables/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
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		<title>Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s clear that my addiction to spreadsheets and Farmville knows no bounds, so as predicted, here is my fifth post on the topic.

Here are the quick links to my first four posts:

The Personal Economics of Farmville
The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2
More Farmville Economics
Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?

The wizards at Zynga have been busy, and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1261&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:left;">It&#8217;s clear that my addiction to spreadsheets and Farmville knows no bounds, so as predicted, here is my fifth post on the topic.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Here are the quick links to my first four posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
</ul>
<p>The wizards at Zynga have been busy, and with regular updates every week (or even more frequently), a large number of new crops have been introduced.  As the comments on my other posts have become quite demanding, here are two of my original tables, updated for all the new crops (as of September 20, 2009):</p>
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<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">183.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">177.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">176.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">170.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">170.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onion</td>
<td align="right">166.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">116.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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<p><em><strong>Assumptions</strong>: All numbers are normalized for one planting square per day, and assume a &#8220;perfect&#8221; farmer who can operate all 24 hours of a single day.  It&#8217;s assumed that you will need to harvest, plow, and plant every cycle for a given crop.<br />
</em></p>
<p>As it turns out, many times players are optimizing for experience per day, rather than for profit.  As a result, here is an updated table that shows experience per crop, with the same assumptions:</p>
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<col width="58"></col>
<col width="85"></col>
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<td width="109" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="58"><strong>XP / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="85"><strong>Cycle (Hours)</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
<td align="right">8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">4.80</td>
<td align="right">10.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">4.50</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">16.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
<td align="right">48.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
<td align="right">96.00</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
</table>
<p>It&#8217;s fairly obvious from the numbers above that crops that can be planted and harvested multiple times per day have a significant advantage.  This advantage is largely due to the +1 XP you get from plowing a square, and the multiple turns per day.  While the longer duration crops have higher experience, they don&#8217;t generate enough experience to match the multiple cycles of crops like the berries, or the 8-hour crops like Tomatoes.  Of course, this <strong>ignores the time value of money</strong>, the primary topic of <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">my first blog post on Farmville Economics</a>.</p>
<p>It seems as if Zynga has been doing their homework when building out their technology tree with additional crops.  Using my 15 coin / XP estimate, the table combining the value by coins and experience is dominated by the new crops:</p>
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<col width="75"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">342.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">267.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">250.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">242.40</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">236.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">226.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">215.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">200.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">139.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
</table>
<p>The title of this blog post, however, is <strong>Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</strong>.  One of my orginal concerns was that measures of profitability were not properly taking into account the amount of risk that each crop incorporated.</p>
<p>When you plant a crop in Farmville, it grows for an allotted time.  During that time, you cannot harvest the crop, nor can you recover your capital.  It&#8217;s completely illiquid.  After that time period, you have an equivalent time period (100% of the growing time) to harvest the crop.  At that point, your investment is liquid and recoverable.  After the harvest time has expired, over the next equivalent time period (between 100% and 200% of the growing time), your crops will wither square-by-square, until none are left.</p>
<p>As a result, a crop that yields a few more coins of profit, but that involves an up-front investment of fifty coins, may not actually be worth the risk of withering.</p>
<p>In case you think I&#8217;m being melodramatic, it&#8217;s a very common problem.  People invest all of the wealth into planting crops, get distracted or misunderstand the rules, and then end up with withered crops and no money left over to re-plant.  They have to depend on &#8220;lotteries&#8221; and &#8220;helping neighbors&#8221; to recapitalize.  (In fact many don&#8217;t, which may be a problem Zynga needs to monitor.)</p>
<p>So how do we model risk-adjusted profitability?</p>
<p>In typical financial modeling, you would have a &#8220;cost of capital&#8221; &#8211; namely a borrowing rate that would be your cost of money over a period of time.  However, for this analysis, it didn&#8217;t seem appropriate &#8211; maybe I&#8217;ll revisit sometime in the future.</p>
<p>To model the Farmville risk, I tried to literally focus on the following facts:</p>
<ol>
<li>How much capital (coins) up front you risk by planting one square?</li>
<li>What is the risk that you won&#8217;t be available during the harvest time?</li>
<li>Probability of harvest + Probability of wither = 100%</li>
<li>Multiply the profits per cycle with the probability of harvest</li>
<li>Normalize to a risk-adjusted profit per day</li>
</ol>
<p>In order to model #2, I&#8217;ve used the following assumption: you are expected to check Farmville once every 24 hours.  You can replace this with your own number, but given that Farmville has 15M+ active daily users, this assumption seems fair.</p>
<p>So, assuming any hour is the same as any other (on average), there is a 1/24 probability that you will be able to check Farmville in a given hour.  24 * 1/24 = 100%</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also assuming that your ability to check on a crop in any given hour is independent of the ability to check any other hour.  This keeps the probability calculations simple.</p>
<p>This means that for shorter lived crops, there is real default risk:</p>
<ul>
<li>There is a 23/24 chance in any hour that you will not check on the crop.</li>
<li>This means, for a 4-hour crop, there is a 23^4/24^4 = 279841 / 331776 = 84.3% chance that you&#8217;ll miss checking on the crop during harvest time for full profit.</li>
<li>This means, for a 4-hour crop, there is an 84.3% chance you&#8217;ll miss the withering time, where you&#8217;ll receive partial profit.  (I&#8217;m assuming a linear decay rate)</li>
<li>This results in a default rate of 71.1% on a four-hour crop.</li>
</ul>
<p>Using calculations similar to those above, I generated an expected profit per cycle.  I&#8217;ve regenerated the table (ignoring experience) for the crops, and ranked them by risk-adjusted profitability:</p>
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<table style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="380"><!--StartFragment--></p>
<col width="75"></col>
<col width="157"></col>
<col width="148"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="75" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="157"><strong>Risk-Adjusted Profit / Day</strong></td>
<td style="text-align:right;" width="148"><strong>Risk of Complete Default</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peas</td>
<td align="right">226.53</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">217.37</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Grapes</td>
<td align="right">206.37</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">201.57</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Asparagus</td>
<td align="right">185.57</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cabbage</td>
<td align="right">181.47</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">154.22</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">153.35</td>
<td align="right">25.62%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">142.52</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Onions</td>
<td align="right">135.58</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">130.15</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Green Tea</td>
<td align="right">126.03</td>
<td align="right">42.69%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">125.98</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">123.93</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">117.11</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sugar Cane</td>
<td align="right">115.57</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">115.54</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.40</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">114.27</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">99.87</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">91.44</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blackberries</td>
<td align="right">80.30</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">79.19</td>
<td align="right">36.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">78.89</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">77.22</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">74.87</td>
<td align="right">12.97%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">72.46</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">68.82</td>
<td align="right">50.61%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Aloe Vera</td>
<td align="right">67.61</td>
<td align="right">60.01%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">60.71</td>
<td align="right">1.68%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">60.47</td>
<td align="right">0.03%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">56.35</td>
<td align="right">71.14%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">52.43</td>
<td align="right">0.22%</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">38.19</td>
<td align="right">84.35%</td>
</tr>
<p><!--EndFragment--></p>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ve made quite a few simplifying assumptions here, so don&#8217;t confuse this with a PhD thesis in Farmville Economics.  But it&#8217;s amazing to me how this list of crops, more than any other table, best reflects my own internal preferences on what to plant.  Maybe that&#8217;s because the &#8220;once a day&#8221; estimate of average availability best fits my own time table during the week.</p>
<p>Another way of revising this estimate is to look at the &#8220;risk of complete default&#8221; as highly correlated with the &#8220;stress level&#8221; you feel when you plant a given crop.  Super Berries are awesome, but there is no question that when I plant them, I am hyper-aware of the need to check on them within a 2 hour window to harvest my profits.</p>
<p>Definitely an interesting lens on the topic of profitability.  Please feel free to share alternative views on how to evaluate the risk-adjusted profitability of Farmville crops here in the comments.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  Here are additional posts on Farmville Economics, published after this one:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
</ul>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the fact that some people find my recent preoccupation with Farmville amusing, the traffic to my original series of blog posts on the Personal Economics of Farmville has been extremely high.  This isn&#8217;t surprising given the incoming links from the Zynga Blog and the Wall Street Journal.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the fact that <a href="http://twitter.com/ikai/status/3882427341" target="_blank">some people find my recent preoccupation with Farmville amusing</a>, the traffic to my original series of blog posts on the Personal Economics of Farmville has been extremely high.  This isn&#8217;t surprising given the incoming links from <a href="http://zblog.zynga.com/?p=981" target="_blank">the Zynga Blog</a> and <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/08/31/app-watch-facebooks-11-million-farmers/" target="_blank">the Wall Street Journal</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=300&#038;h=229" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="300" height="229" /></a></p>
<p>Here are the quick links to my first three posts:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
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<p>Well everyone knows that bloggers can&#8217;t resist traffic, so as a result, I thought I&#8217;d add a fourth post to the series, highlighting some of the insights into the economic value of Farmville experience points.</p>
<p>It all started with the analysis I presented in the second post, which modified the profitability matrix for each Farmville crop by adding an economic value for Experience.  Here is a snippet:</p>
<blockquote><p>The question is, how do you blend the value of experience and coins? The truth is, the function for valuing experience is probably too complicated to get right.</p>
<p>However, I did find a simplistic proxy.  1 experience point = 15 coins.</p>
<p>Why? Well, it turns out you can just sit there, plow a square for 15 coins, and get 1 experience point.  You can then delete the square and do it again.  So at least, in theory, you can “buy” an infinite supply of experience points for 15 coins each.</p></blockquote>
<p>Boy, did that start a firestorm.  It turns out, there is a well-worn analysis that says that Farmville experience is actually worth 10 coins.  Why?  If you plow a square of land (-15 coins, +1 XP) and plant soybeans (-15 coins, +2 XP) and then delete, you spend a total of 30 coins, and you get +3 XP.  Thus 30/3 = 10 coins / XP.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a more complicated series, and it ignores the liquidity issue of requiring the purchase of 3 XP at a time, not 1 XP, but it&#8217;s a pretty good proxy for the &#8220;cheapest&#8221; way to buy experience.</p>
<p>The more I thought about this, however, the more dissatisfied I became with the answer.  The reason?  It ignores the incredible time cost of those set of actions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Click the plow tool.</li>
<li>Click the square.</li>
<li>Click the market tool</li>
<li>Navigate dialog, click soybeans.</li>
<li>Click the square</li>
<li>Click delete tool</li>
<li>Click the square</li>
<li>Select &#8220;Accept&#8221; from the &#8220;Are you sure&#8221; dialog</li>
</ul>
<p>Ugh.  For 3XP.  Can you imagine trying to get 4500 XP this way?  I can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As a result, I&#8217;m even going to invalidate my original 15 coin / XP assumption.  In fact, you&#8217;ll notice that for truly painless actions, like buying a building, the number of XP gained is typically 1/100 the price of the item.  For example, when you pay 250,000 coins for a log cabin, you also get 2500 XP.</p>
<p>I think this effectively bounds the range of the value of XP.  Clearly, it&#8217;s worth more than 1/100 of a coin, because you ALSO get the log cabin, which is a pretty snazzy farm improvement.  It&#8217;s also clearly more than 1/10, because the time cost of that process is clearly extracting value beyond the coins.</p>
<p>So, value of XP is:</p>
<p><strong>0.01 coins &lt; 1 XP &lt; 0.1 coins</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing the value of XP is close to 20 coins.  A haybale is only 100 coins, and it gives you 5 XP.  Since a haybale is a pretty negligible improvement, you can assume that most of the price is actually for XP.  So, that would bound the range even tighter:</p>
<p><strong>0.2 coins &lt; 1 XP &lt; 0.1 coins</strong></p>
<p>Now, I know what you are going to say: &#8220;You can sell the haybale for 5 coins, making it even cheaper!&#8221;.  The problem there is that now you have to go through the delete process, with the confirmation dialog.  Ugh.   I&#8217;m trying to avoid that work.</p>
<p>In fact, my analysis is still missing a &#8220;cost&#8221; for the implicit clutter a haybale creates on your farm.  You have a limited amount of space, so the &#8220;price&#8221; of a haybale is really:</p>
<p><strong>Cost of haybale = 100 coins + MIN((time cost to delete haybale &#8211; 5 coins), opportunity cost of lost 1/16 of a square of land)</strong></p>
<p>Maybe in a future post I&#8217;ll explore the opportunity cost of clutter in more detail.  It&#8217;s certainly the thing that would prevent you from literally filling your field with haybales to buy experience.  (Interestingly, Farmville just rolled out an improvement today that lets you buy haybales continuously!)</p>
<p>Finally, I have to share a tip that was posted on one of my earlier articles that has represented the single largest improvement in my Farmville quality of life:</p>
<p><strong>If you &#8220;fence in&#8221; your farmer, then Farmville will harvest, plow, seed a square immediately, without waiting for the farmer to walk to it.</strong></p>
<p>I was skeptical of this advice at first, but I tried it this weekend, and it speeds planting a large farm by AT LEAST 50%.  I use ducks to &#8220;fence in my farmer&#8221;.  I keep several in a box at the edge of my farm, and first thing I do is walk the farmer into the box.  I then move one duck to close the trap, and boom, 15 minutes added back to my life.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your mileage may vary.  Enjoy.</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>: I&#8217;ve posted the following new articles on Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  The traffic from the first two blog posts on Farmville has been high.  In fact, the Zynga blog even picked up the two articles.  Very flattering.
I was all set to write a post tonight on the economics of trees in Farmville&#8230; but then I caught Pablo&#8217;s post on &#8220;Treeconomics&#8221;.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  The traffic from the first two blog posts on Farmville has been high.  In fact, <a href="http://zblog.zynga.com/?p=981" target="_blank">the Zynga blog even picked up the two articles</a>.  Very flattering.</p>
<p>I was all set to write a post tonight on the economics of trees in Farmville&#8230; but then I caught <a href="http://pablopaniagua.com/2009/08/25/farmville-treeconomics" target="_blank">Pablo&#8217;s post on &#8220;Treeconomics&#8221;.</a></p>
<p>Brilliant.  Leveraging some of the work I had done, he does a evaluation of a 16-square of trees in terms of &#8220;yield&#8221; vs. crops.  Very interesting, confirming that a 16-square of Date trees can compare very favorably to almost everything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to have to think about this a bit more &#8211; I want to build a model where I incorporate a few additional factors:</p>
<ul>
<li>The &#8220;down payment&#8221; for trees.</li>
<li>The freedom to never have to &#8220;plow&#8221; or &#8220;plant&#8221; again. (value of time)</li>
<li>The freedom from working capital for seeds on an ongoing basis.</li>
<li>The removal of &#8220;withering risk&#8221;.  Crops wither after 20% of their growing time, yielding a complete loss of the capital to plow &amp; plant.  Trees never wither.</li>
<li>The lack of experience points from trees</li>
<li>Incorporate the data from all the trees, not just the ones you can buy.</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;ll still write a follow up here, but tonight there is no need.  Check out this table from Pablo as  sample:</p>
<table style="border-collapse:collapse;width:376pt;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="500">
<col style="width:84pt;" width="112"></col>
<col style="width:43pt;" width="57"></col>
<col style="width:42pt;" span="2" width="56"></col>
<col style="width:34pt;" width="45"></col>
<col style="width:47pt;" width="62"></col>
<col style="width:48pt;" width="64"></col>
<col style="width:36pt;" width="48"></col>
<tbody>
<tr style="height:27.75pt;text-align:center;">
<td style="height:27.75pt;width:84pt;" width="112" height="37"></td>
<td style="width:43pt;" width="57"></td>
<td style="width:42pt;" width="56"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Cost</span></td>
<td style="width:42pt;" width="56"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Revenue/Harvest</span></td>
<td style="width:34pt;" width="45"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Days to Harvest</span></td>
<td style="width:47pt;" width="62"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Daily Revenue</span></strong></td>
<td style="width:48pt;" width="64"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Daily Rev/ Invested $</span></td>
<td style="width:36pt;" width="48"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Days to Payback</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Date</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$800.0</td>
<td align="right">$69.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$23.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.88%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Lime</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$750.0</td>
<td align="right">$75.0</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$15.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.00%</td>
<td align="right">50</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Lemon</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$475.0</td>
<td align="right">$41.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$13.67</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.88%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Peach</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$500.0</td>
<td align="right">$47.0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$11.75</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.35%</td>
<td align="right">43</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Fig</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$350.0</td>
<td align="right">$33.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$11.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">3.14%</td>
<td align="right">32</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Plum</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$350.0</td>
<td align="right">$30.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$10.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.86%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Orange</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$425.0</td>
<td align="right">$40.0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$10.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.35%</td>
<td align="right">43</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Apple</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$325.0</td>
<td align="right">$28.0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$9.33</strong></td>
<td align="right">2.87%</td>
<td align="right">35</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Cherry</td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$225.0</td>
<td align="right">$18.0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$9.00</strong></td>
<td align="right">4.00%</td>
<td align="right">25</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>And this one:</p>
<table style="border-collapse:collapse;width:322pt;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="428">
<col style="width:84pt;" width="112"></col>
<col style="width:51pt;" width="68"></col>
<col style="width:50pt;" width="66"></col>
<col style="width:47pt;" width="63"></col>
<col style="width:43pt;" width="57"></col>
<col style="width:47pt;" width="62"></col>
<tbody>
<tr style="height:36pt;">
<td style="height:36pt;width:84pt;" width="112" height="48"></td>
<td style="width:51pt;text-align:center;" width="68"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Daily Profit</span></td>
<td style="width:50pt;text-align:center;" width="66"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Total Profit</span></td>
<td style="width:47pt;text-align:center;" width="63"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Initial investment</span></td>
<td style="width:43pt;text-align:center;" width="57"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Residual Value</span></td>
<td style="width:47pt;text-align:center;" width="62"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Profit</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Super Berries</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$900.0</td>
<td align="right">$81,000.0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$81,000.0</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Date tree square</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$368.0</td>
<td align="right">$33,120.0</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$12,800</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$640.0</td>
<td align="right"><strong>$20,960.0 </strong></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Tomatoes</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$174.0</td>
<td align="right">$15,660.0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$15,660.0</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:11.25pt;">
<td style="height:11.25pt;" height="15">Raspberries</td>
<td style="text-align:center;">$132.0</td>
<td align="right">$11,880.0</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td align="right">$11,880.0</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p>Too cool.</p>
<p>Now go <a href="http://pablopaniagua.com/2009/08/25/farmville-treeconomics" target="_blank">read it</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted additional articles on Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
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		<title>The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, I wrote a fairly popular post about the personal economics of Farmville, the extremely popular Facebook game by Zynga.  There were enough comments and emails about the original post, I decided to write a quick follow-up to cover some of the most common ideas and concerns.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, I wrote a fairly popular post about the <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/22/the-personal-economics-of-farmville/" target="_blank">personal economics of Farmville</a>, the extremely popular Facebook game by Zynga.  There were enough comments and emails about the original post, I decided to write a quick follow-up to cover some of the most common ideas and concerns.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&amp;h=286" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&#038;h=286" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="374" height="286" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">
<p>I was also able to get the data on Red Wheat and Yellow Mellon, which were missing from my original post.  Also, this weekend saw the (temporary?) advent of &#8220;Super Berries&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve updated my original table here, showing the rank of all Farmville crops based on net profit per day per square.  Let&#8217;s just say there is a reason Super Berries are, well, super:</p>
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<col width="156"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td align="right">900.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">84.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
</table>
<p style="text-align:left;">The most interesting questions and comments came from <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/akumar2" target="_blank">Abhi Kumar</a>, product manager for Farmville at Zynga.  Needless to say, it was extremely flattering to have Abhi interested in my post, and to hear his thoughts on the topic.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">The first point Abhi raised was interesting.  The question was, how would I factor experience into these calculations.  Clearly, experience is crucial to the game in several regards:</p>
<ul>
<li>It&#8217;s crucial for rising in the technology tree, to get access to new crops, tools, and other beneficial items.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s a basic game mechanic that drives people to see their &#8220;score&#8221; rise.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s public to your neighbors.  As a social game, this adds an additional game mechanic, similar to a leaderboard, that encourages you to boost your score.</li>
</ul>
<p>In order to calculate the experience for each crop, I took the experience that each crop delivers per cycle, added one experience point per cycle for re-plowing, and then normalized the values for a single day (24 hours) and a single square.</p>
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<col width="156"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Experience / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td width="105" align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">12.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">6.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">4.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">3.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">2.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">2.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">1.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">1.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">0.75</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
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<p>Not surprisingly, the quick cycle-time of the berries dominates this table.</p>
<p>The question is, how do you blend the value of experience and coins? The truth is, the function for valuing experience is probably too complicated to get right.</p>
<p>However, I did find a simplistic proxy.  1 experience point = 15 coins.</p>
<p>Why? Well, it turns out you can just sit there, plow a square for 15 coins, and get 1 experience point.  You can then delete the square and do it again.  So at least, in theory, you can &#8220;buy&#8221; an infinite supply of experience points for 15 coins each.</p>
<p>When you include experience at this price, the rank of the crops changes significantly from the original &#8220;coins only&#8221; version of the most profitable crops:</p>
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<table style="border-collapse:collapse;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="261"><!--StartFragment--></p>
<col width="156"></col>
<col width="105"></col>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="105"><strong>Profit + XP / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="156" height="13">Super Berries</td>
<td width="105" align="right">1260.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">336.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">312.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">264.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">240.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">210.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">207.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">195.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">166.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">159.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">122.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Red Wheat</td>
<td align="right">99.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">88.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Mellon</td>
<td align="right">88.25</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">86.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">80.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">78.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">76.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">62.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">55.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">46.50</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">41.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">36.67</td>
</tr>
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</tbody>
</table>
<p>In many ways, this final table is a more satisfying answer on what to plant, since it gives a fairly balanced view across coins (which are needed to buy seeds, tools, and other items) and experience (which is also needed to raise your level to buy seeds, tools, and other items).</p>
<p>Clearly, this analysis is very sensitive to the value of an experience point.  The more value you ascribe to experience, the more the compound table begins to resemble the experience-only version.</p>
<p>As part of my original post, I had run some analysis that suggested that if you value the time that it requires to check on your crops, harvest them, and re-plow &amp; plant, then you might get a different order.  I&#8217;ve now updated the chart to include the three crops that I didn&#8217;t have yesterday.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville_economics_updated.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1235" style="border:0 none;" title="Farmville_Economics_Updated" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville_economics_updated.png?w=400&#038;h=272" alt="Farmville_Economics_Updated" width="400" height="272" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em>click to see the enlarged chart graphic</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Based on the addition of the new crops, the top five crops in terms of their value in $ US / hour are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Yellow Mellon</li>
<li>Broccoli</li>
<li>Red Wheat</li>
<li>Corn</li>
<li>Watermelon</li>
</ol>
<p>All of the values are still well below $1 / hour.</p>
<p>I re-ran these numbers utilizing the experience points.  While they did shift the numbers to the right, they didn&#8217;t alter the ranking significantly.  This is likely because the cost in time (15 minutes) for each cycle and the high conversion rate (1500 coins / $1 US) means that the time cost of checking dwarfs the incremental value of the experience per cycle.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why you can see that one wacky line, Super Berries, which starts so high it&#8217;s off the chart, but crashes down under the weight of 12 cycle refreshes per day.</p>
<p>A couple people specifically wanted to see this analysis taking into account the new Tractor, which speeds plowing by up to 4x (although you need to buy fuel).  Since I don&#8217;t have a Tractor yet (working on it), I estimated what would happen if a cycle plow/plant took only 5 minutes instead of 15.  Here is the updated chart:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville-economics-updated-tractor.png" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1236" style="border:0 none;" title="Farmville Economics Updated Tractor" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/farmville-economics-updated-tractor.png?w=400&#038;h=272" alt="Farmville Economics Updated Tractor" width="400" height="272" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em>click to see the enlarged chart graphic</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">For those of you playing at home, sorry to disappoint.  It turns out that dropping the time it takes does shift the value per hour out almost linearly.  You&#8217;ll note that in this chart, now the equivalent value for Yellow Mellon is over $2.62 / hour.  The order of the most valuable crops, however, does not change, because even five minutes dominates with such a high US $ to Farmville coin exchange rate.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Abhi did make one last point that I agree with completely.  The primary value of the game is not the coins you make.  (In fact, since you can&#8217;t really convert coins back to dollars, they are arguably worthless.)  The value is the fun and enjoyment you get from the time spent.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">In fact, I could theorize that if you normally bill $50/hour for your time, the delta between your normal rate and the amount you are making with Farmville crops shows just how much you value playing Farmville.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Hope this post was as interesting to folks as the last.  I&#8217;ve got to go harvest some Super Berries&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted additional articles on Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/10/farmville-economics-what-price-experience/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
</ul>
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		<title>The Personal Economics of Farmville</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been playing Farmville, a social video game by Zynga, over the past week, and I have to say that I&#8217;m extremely impressed.  It&#8217;s a very simple simulation game, with well integrated social aspects to promote virality, a good technology tree, and clever virtual goods integration.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been playing Farmville, a social video game by Zynga, over the past week, and I have to say that I&#8217;m extremely impressed.  It&#8217;s a very simple simulation game, with well integrated social aspects to promote virality, a good technology tree, and clever virtual goods integration.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://www.zynga.com/games/index.php?game=farmville" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1225" style="border:0 none;" title="gameBig_farmville" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/gamebig_farmville.jpg?w=374&#038;h=286" alt="gameBig_farmville" width="374" height="286" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">If you&#8217;ve played the game (and at this point, approximately 9 million people have), then you are likely already familiar with the primary economics of the game.  As a farmer, you have a certain number of plots.  It costs money (coins) to plow a plot and plant seeds.  Different crops take different amounts of time to grow, and are worth different amounts at harvest.  Quite simply, the question is:</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Which crops should you plant?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Since I do love an excuse to crack open Excel, I built a simple model that tells you what crops are the &#8220;most valuable&#8221; to plant.  My model was simple:</p>
<ul>
<li>Revenue is just the value of the crop at harvest</li>
<li>Cost is the cost of the seeds + the cost to plow the square</li>
</ul>
<p>In order to compare crops, I had to normalize the values:</p>
<ul>
<li>Normalized all revenue and costs to &#8220;one square&#8221;</li>
<li>Normalized all revenue and costs to &#8220;one day&#8221;, namely 24 hours</li>
</ul>
<p>Thus a crop like Strawberries, which takes 4 hours to grow, can be theoretically planted 6 times in a single day.  Eggplant, which takes 2 days to grow, can be planted 0.5 times in a single day.</p>
<p>This model gives you the following simple table as output, ranked by &#8220;coins per square per day&#8221;:</p>
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<col width="156"></col>
<col width="75"></col>
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<td width="156" height="13"><strong>Crop</strong></td>
<td width="75"><strong>Profit / Day</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Tomatoes</td>
<td align="right">174.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Sunflowers</td>
<td align="right">165.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Coffee</td>
<td align="right">162.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Blueberries</td>
<td align="right">156.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Carrots</td>
<td align="right">150.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Raspberries</td>
<td align="right">132.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Broccoli</td>
<td align="right">129.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Peppers</td>
<td align="right">77.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Rice</td>
<td align="right">72.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Corn</td>
<td align="right">71.67</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pumpkin</td>
<td align="right">69.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Pineapple</td>
<td align="right">66.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Potatoes</td>
<td align="right">65.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Strawberries</td>
<td align="right">60.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Yellow Bell</td>
<td align="right">54.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Watermelon</td>
<td align="right">50.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Cotton</td>
<td align="right">39.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Soybeans</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Squash</td>
<td align="right">33.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Artichoke</td>
<td align="right">29.75</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Eggplant</td>
<td align="right">24.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="13">Wheat</td>
<td align="right">21.67</td>
</tr>
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<p><em>(Note: I still haven&#8217;t gotten the revenue and cycle time for the new crops, Red Wheat and Yellow Mellon)</em></p>
<p>Most of the <a href="http://gameolosophy.com/games/farmville-the-unofficial-strategy-guide/" target="_blank">strategy guides</a> that I&#8217;ve found across the web have basically gone just this far.</p>
<p>The problem with this model, however, is pretty obvious:</p>
<p><strong>It assumes that your time has no value!</strong></p>
<p>Listen, Raspberries might be #6 on this list, but you have to actually harvest and replant 12 times per day! (It&#8217;s a two-hour crop).  That only seems reasonable if you truly value your time at $0.  Theoretically, we should give some non-zero value to the time it takes to replant, and see how it affects the rankings.</p>
<p>To do this, I changed the model based on the following assumptions:</p>
<ul>
<li>It takes roughly 15 minutes to replant your farm with a crop</li>
<li>1500 Farmville coins are worth $1 (which is what Zynga charges to buy coins with PayPal or your credit card).</li>
</ul>
<p>I then graphed out the ranking of the crops on a spectrum from $0.00 / hour value for your time, all the way to $1.00 / hour.</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">As you can tell from the range, the bad news is that even the best crop flips to being &#8220;negative value&#8221; per day at a monetary value of approximately $0.70 / hour.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><em>click the image to see enlarged verson</em></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">This graph paints a very different picture.  If you rank crops by what hourly wage &#8220;zeroes them out&#8221; in value, you find that actually, your top three crops should be:</p>
<ol>
<li>Broccoli ($0.69 / hour)</li>
<li>Corn ($0.57 / hour)</li>
<li>Watermelon ($0.54 / hour)</li>
</ol>
<p>If you accept the idea that 1500 Farmville coins is worth $1 (which is a bit of a stretch since you can&#8217;t convert back to dollars&#8230;), then these are the crops that pay you the best &#8220;hourly wage&#8221; for your time.</p>
<p>There are a few things I&#8217;ve left out here:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Trees / Animals. </strong>I haven&#8217;t run these numbers for trees or animals, but it would be trivial to do so.</li>
<li><strong>Working capital. </strong> These crops require different amounts of liquid cash in your Farmville account.  That capital theoretically has a cost, but I didn&#8217;t model it.</li>
<li><strong>Experience. </strong> Some people are playing for experience points, not coins.  Ignored here.</li>
<li><strong>Capital Risk.</strong> The different crops have different windows of time to harvest before your revenue goes to zero and your crops wither.  This analysis assumes a &#8220;perfect farmer&#8221;.</li>
</ul>
<p>If you find this model interesting or useful, would love to see links back here from anyone who pursues any of these different issues.</p>
<p>Of course, that assumes that there is someone else out there twisted enough to spend time analyzing the personal economics of Farmville&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Updates</strong>: I&#8217;ve now posted several follow-on posts about Farmville Economics:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/23/the-personal-economics-of-farmville-part-2/" target="_blank">The Personal Economics of Farmville, Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/08/25/more-farmville-economics/" target="_blank">More Farmville Economics</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/09/21/farmville-economics-risk-adjusted-crop-profitability/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: What Price Experience?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Risk Adjusted Crop Profitability</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/10/05/farmville-economics-sweet-seeds-are-almost-genius/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Sweet Seeds are *Almost* Genius</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Flowers &amp; Updated Tables</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/11/08/farmville-economics-cranberries-pattypan-squash-acorn-squash/" target="_blank">Farmville Economics: Cranberries, Pattypan Squash, Acorn Squash</a></li>
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		<title>Problems with the New Star Trek Movie Reboot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 05:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before I get into this, let me just warn that this post contains spoilers.  Don&#8217;t read any further if you haven&#8217;t seen the new Star Trek movie.  Or at least, don&#8217;t read any further and then complain to me.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I get into this, let me just warn that this post contains spoilers.  Don&#8217;t read any further if you haven&#8217;t seen the new Star Trek movie.  Or at least, don&#8217;t read any further and then complain to me.</p>
<p>First off, I know that the movie is doing really well.  I also know that almost everyone seems to really like it.  So I don&#8217;t expect this post to be popular.  Still, there were a few small things (and one large thing) that bothered me about it, and it seemed blog worthy.</p>
<p>The big issue is the premise of the &#8220;reboot&#8221; logic.  This movie was explicitly designed to appeal to a whole new audience, and as a result, it deviates in many ways from the previous &#8220;canon&#8221;, ie, the character &amp; future history established by the other movies and TV Series.</p>
<p>Unlike Superman Returns, or The Dark Knight, however, this movie tries to explain away the differences with a plot device.</p>
<p>The plot device is as follows:</p>
<p>A Romulan captain of a mining ship, in the late 24th century, witnesses the destruction of Romulus.  Infuriated, he blames Spock for failing to save the planet (and his wife and child).  He attacks (old) Spock, falls through a black hole and ends up in the early 23rd century.  As a result, the timeline is forever changed, because the first thing he does (almost) is kill George Kirk, James T. Kirk&#8217;s father, putting him (and Starfleet) on a different path.</p>
<p>Ugh, it sounds worse when I write it.  It felt pretty par-for-the-course in theater for a Star Trek time-travel plot.</p>
<p><strong>Here&#8217;s the big problem.</strong> The last two years of the Star Trek series Enterprise were literally based on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_Cold_War" target="_blank">Temporal Cold War</a>.  (In fact, this was an extension in some ways of the &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Relativity" target="_blank">Relativity</a>&#8221; episode in Star Trek Voyager and the &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_Integrity_Commission" target="_blank">Trials and Tribble-ations</a>&#8221; episode of Deep Space Nine.)  Without descending into a geek singularity, the basis premise is that in the future, time travel technology is mastered, leading to a set of accords among governments to &#8220;protect&#8221; the timeline.  Some people violate those accords (&#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_Accords#Temporal_Prime_Directive" target="_blank">The Temporal Accords</a>&#8220;), and thus there are future Federation <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniels_(Star_Trek)#Daniels" target="_blank">people</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Relativity" target="_blank">ships</a> whose purpose is to help apprehend these criminals and restore the original timeline.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about one or two flaky episodes here with a minor inconsistency.  I&#8217;m talking about dozens of episodes and a major timeline of future history with key events between the 20th century all the way to the 31st century.</p>
<p>In any case, in order to believe this plot reboot, you have to believe that somehow with all those time ships and policing, Agent Daniels, the USS Relativity, and all those others just let a random mining captain from Romulus rewrite the history of the Federation without correction.  They go to huge lengths to save Captain Archer, but not Captain Kirk?</p>
<p>Sorry.  That doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>I think what I&#8217;m more disappointed about is that the movie didn&#8217;t even try to explain it away.  For example:</p>
<p>Old Spock from the future, for example, could have added 30 seconds to his explanation to either New Kirk or New Spock to say that this timeline is permanent, or why it won&#8217;t be fixed.</p>
<p><em>Spock: &#8220;In general, major timeline changes in the past have been corrected by the Federation in future centuries.  However, we had been warned that the use of &#8220;red matter&#8221; could leave us vulnerable to untrackable temporal events.  In my rush to save Romulus, I have put the entire future at risk.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>This really wouldn&#8217;t bother me if the movie was a clean reboot of the series, like Battlestar Galactica.  But J.J. Abrams is trying to have his cake and eat it too.  He clumsily and awkwardly brings everyone together for the new Enterprise crew (exactly how unlikely was it that Scotty would be on that one base on that one moon&#8230;)  In some ways, the half-hearted attempt to maintain continuity with the time travel device is worse than just doing a straight reboot, no questions asked.</p>
<p>Now I realize I fall into a very tiny minority of people who even watched Star Trek Enterprise (or Voyager for that matter).  And I realize I fall in an even smaller fraction who liked Enterprise.  (1 in a million?)</p>
<p>Still, if they wanted to hardball ignore the series, they could have just asserted something early that made it clear that the series Star Trek Enterprise didn&#8217;t exist in this universe (ala Superman III/IV being axed in Superman Returns).  For example, they could have just asserted that this was the first human starship with the name Enterprise.</p>
<p>The most ironic element to the reboot plot device is that the one series <strong>it doesn&#8217;t change</strong> is Star Trek Enterprise, because that series takes place before the federation was founded!  So in this timeline, we don&#8217;t know whether there will be a Captain Picard, a Deep Space Nine, or a Captain Janeway.</p>
<p>But we do know, of course, that Scott Bakula was captain of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_(NX-01)" target="_blank">NX-01 Enterprise</a>.  Rich, rich irony for fans who hated that series.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I liked the movie enough to see it again, and I think it achieved its goal of reaching out to people who have never seen Star Trek before (or didn&#8217;t watch much of it.)  I was actually surprised to see so many &#8220;wink wink, nudge nudge&#8221; moments in the film &#8211; references to other characters, catch phrases, moments, etc.  When Spock gives the transwarp transport formula to Scotty, I half-way expected some reference to transparent aluminum (Star Trek IV).</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s what bothered me the most &#8211; they clearly put some effort into lining this up with canon in minor ways that didn&#8217;t really matter, but then ignored the big gaping hole around time travel.</p>
<p>Anyway, just for fun, here are some other small nits that bugged me:</p>
<ul>
<li>There is a canyon in Iowa?</li>
<li>Was the Nokia placement really necessary?  Did it even make sense?  There are still private companies in the future?  They still operate?</li>
<li>Wow!  <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5253324/how-big-is-the-new-enterprise-compared-to-galactica" target="_blank">The Enterprise is really big now</a>.  Huge.  How big is the crew?  That Romulan ship must be immense.  Kirk can just run around and find his way?  It must be miles long!</li>
<li>Captain Pike decides to make a not-quite-graduate with 3 years in the academy First Officer.  Really?  Maybe they know more about nature vs. nurture in the future.</li>
<li>Sulu carries a sword around with him?</li>
<li>Movie jumps the shark when Kirk crash lands on the ice planet/moon.
<ul>
<li>First, he plays Empire Strikes Back with the native wildlife (unnecessary).</li>
<li>Second, he just happens to crash within a few miles of Spock?</li>
<li>Exactly how close is this moon/planet to Vulcan, so that it appears huge in the sky of this world?</li>
<li>Spock is placed within walking distance of a Federation outpost, and is waiting for&#8230; ?</li>
<li>Scotty just happens to be stationed at this outpost?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Spock doesn&#8217;t go with Kirk because he doesn&#8217;t want to hurt the bonding experience for Kirk &amp; Spock?  Seriously?  He&#8217;s really taking this new timeline thing in stride.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>&#8220;Red&#8221; matter?  That&#8217;s what they went with?  &#8220;Red&#8221; matter?  Was this sponsored by Bono or something?</li>
<li>Flagship of the fleet goes to new graduate.  I know there isn&#8217;t supposed to be a lot of politics in the future, but I have to think someone got passed over here and is kind of pissed about it.</li>
</ul>
<p>Looking forward to Terminator Salvation (which deals with timeline inconsistencies better), Up, Transformers, GI Joe, Harry Potter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>iTunes Pass Could Be the Key to Digital TV</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/02/25/itunes-pass-could-be-the-key-to-digital-tv/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read this news today with great interest:
Apple, EMI unveil iTunes Pass
Apple has just launched a new service called Pass for its popular iTunes music store.  It&#8217;s like a season pass for a favorite artist, in this case the electro band Depeche Mode&#8230;  Before thinking this is Apple’s entree into the music subscription business, which is [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1106&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this news today with great interest:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/technologylive/2009/02/apple-emi-unvei.html" target="_blank"><strong>Apple, EMI unveil iTunes Pass</strong></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Apple has just launched a new service called Pass for its popular iTunes music store.  It&#8217;s like a season pass for a favorite artist, in this case the electro band Depeche Mode&#8230;  Before thinking this is Apple’s entree into the music subscription business, which is something Steve Jobs has pooh-poohed in the past, note that iTunes Pass is quite different.</p>
<p>Under an all-you-can eat music subscription plan at a place such as <a href="http://rhapsody.sirris.com/d/?v=7&amp;pos_ver=V01&amp;src=offer_rhap_rhapDMMMainPage_D_V01&amp;pcode=srchrv&amp;ocode=search&amp;cpath=ppcse&amp;rsrc=gg_ru_rhp_14&amp;SR=sr2rz32go4572sx92pi16ai43&amp;gclid=CN7nlcSU9pgCFQu-Ggod2D432A&amp;mboxSession=1235512986426-2674">Rhapsody</a>, you have access to the material only as long as you keep paying a fee. With iTunes Pass, you own the content that has been downloaded,<strong> even after the pass expires</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve written a bit about this in the past, but it&#8217;s shocking to see Apple so close, and yet so far, from what might be a truly disruptive innovation in digital television.</p>
<p>The iTunes Pass is the right idea, but the wrong market.  We don&#8217;t need this for music, we need this for digital television &amp; movies.</p>
<p>When Apple launched Apple TV, it highlighted the ability to subscribe to a season of television.  The idea was you pay a fee up front, and then as episodes of that show come out, they would automatically download to your iTunes (and then synch with your AppleTV), allowing you to watch a show with both digital convenience and without waiting until the end of the season to buy a DVD.  This was a great concept for a few reasons:</p>
<ol>
<li>Ability to easily &#8220;catch up&#8221; with a season/show that was already underway.  This is a very common problem, particularly with serial shows where you miss the first few episodes before friends/news reaches you with a recommendation.  (This is the reason I didn&#8217;t get to watch 24 in real time until Season 3&#8230;)</li>
<li>Ability to &#8220;own&#8221; the shows permanently &#8211; not a transient state like a traditional DVR.</li>
<li>Ability to watch on TV.  Let&#8217;s face it, that&#8217;s where you want to watch the show, not on your PC.</li>
<li>Automatic download, in the background.  Shows would be waiting for you as they appeared.</li>
</ol>
<p>The problems, however, with the execution were equally significant:</p>
<ol>
<li>Lack of seasons.  For many shows, Apple provided the current season, but not previous seasons.  Thus, if you wanted to watch &#8220;Lost&#8221;, you couldn&#8217;t &#8220;catch up&#8221; with Seasons 1 &amp; 2.</li>
<li>Timeliness.  Next day would have been OK, and in the beginning that was the plan.  In reality, some shows would show up days or weeks later.  Ideally, the download would literally begin at the official showtime EST in the US.</li>
<li>Pricing.  They used DVD pricing, which frankly is just ridiculous.  The idea that you&#8217;d reasonably pay $30-$50 for a season of TV that can be had through traditional distribution channels for free makes sense in the historical model of buying specific shows/seasons in low volume, but isn&#8217;t a mass market play for general television consumption.  If in a given season (Winter 2009) I&#8217;m watching 6-8 shows, there is no way you are going to get $200+ out of me for the privilege unless you 100% substitute for my cable bill.</li>
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<p>The pricing issue in particular led me to a hypothetical model that could potentially benefit both Apple &amp; the networks by disintermediating the traditional cable/sattelite duopoly.  Basically, every network could attempt to become &#8220;HBO&#8221;.  HBO pioneered the idea of a premium channel &#8211; an extra monthly charge you&#8217;d pay for unlimited access to content.  Thanks to the VCR, that also included the ability to &#8220;time shift&#8221; that content for your own use.</p>
<p>On iTunes, NBC could be as valuable as HBO.   Imagine an iTunes Pass where, for a monthly fee, you could subscribe to The Office.  You would automatically get new episodes as they come out, as well as download old episodes (like a podcast).  These would all be watchable on AppleTV, as well as your iPhone.  That&#8217;s something worth paying for.</p>
<p>Now imagine that for a monthly subscription fee, you could actually do that with any NBC show.  The Office.  My Name is Earl.  ER.  30 Rock.   Whatever you want.  You would become an &#8220;NBC subscriber&#8221;.  NBC would have a premium revenue stream, and would then focus on providing high quality content to lure in new subscribers, and to keep existing subscribers.  They would also have their own &#8220;distribution channel&#8221; within iTunes &#8211; they could now launch new shows and pilots for a fraction of the cost &amp; risk by delivering them to people automatically, and making the marginal cost of subscribing to a new show effectively zero for the user.  Sunk cost.</p>
<p>Subscribing to a network could be an upsell from an individual hit show.  Subscribe to The Office for $5/month.  Or subscribe to all of NBC for $10/month.  Network families could offer the same bundle of channels to individuals that they currently offer to the cable &amp; sattelite companies.  Get the entire family of NBC channels for $15/month.</p>
<p>There is likely some price in that ballpark where NBC would be agnostic between someone watching them on cable vs. subscribing on iTunes.</p>
<p>Per-show pricing doesn&#8217;t get you scale.  But owning a customer relationship as a network is incredibly valuable.  These subscriptions could also be platform agnostic long term &#8211; no reason you can&#8217;t have versions that support Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Netflix, etc.</p>
<p>People already are beginning to question their premium movie-channel cable subscriptions in favor of Netflix/Blockbuster service.  Network subscriptions could substitute for the primary cable bill.</p>
<p>Right now, I watch shows on Fox, NBC, ABC, HBO, SCIFI &amp; FX.   There is a price where I&#8217;d gladly shift over to a digital subscription to get the benefits of the content combined with the benefits of professional, digital files that I could watch anywhere, anytime (time shifting &amp; location shifting).</p>
<p>The thing that I love about this model is that, from a games theory perspective, there is significant value to the first &#8220;defector&#8221; &#8211; the network that moves to this pricing model first.  For example, if HBO offered this service through iTunes, I&#8217;d subscribe immediately.  Obviously, the cable &amp; sattelite companies would fight this tooth &amp; nail &#8211; but I&#8217;m not sure they have a leg to stand on in preventing this.  After all, Comcast can&#8217;t prevent NBC from offering channels to DirecTV, etc.</p>
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		<title>Obama Inauguration in Legos</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to say, I am completely uninterested in the inauguration &#8220;event&#8221; that is going on right now.   Then again, I&#8217;m not really into the Academy Awards either.  My guess it has something to do with the amazing amount of real work to be done, and the amazing amount of time, effort and money being [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1068&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I am completely uninterested in the inauguration &#8220;event&#8221; that is going on right now.   Then again, I&#8217;m not really into the Academy Awards either.  My guess it has something to do with the amazing amount of real work to be done, and the amazing amount of time, effort and money being thrown instead into a party in Washington D.C.</p>
<p>In any case, of all the inauguration coverage, so far I&#8217;ve found <a href="http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/lego-barack-obama-in-3861/" target="_blank">this piece</a> the most interesting:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-01/Legoland-Barack-Obama-inauguration_44562791.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p>That&#8217;s right, the entire inauguration, including hand-built mini-figures of over 1000 people, including the entire Obama family.  Note, these are not the typical mini-figs &#8211; they are actually 4-inch people made of lego blocks.  Amazing.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" src="http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-01/Legoland-Barack-Obama-inauguration_44562816.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s historic.  Thank you, <a href="http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/lego-barack-obama-in-3861/" target="_blank">LA Times.</a></p>
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		<title>The Fifth Cylon as a Traffic Driver</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I posted on this topic last week, but I thought I&#8217;d add an update after the big Battlestar Galactica debut this past Friday.  Interesting to see how frak parties everywhere translated into traffic.
So far, despite the debut on Friday, it looks like my traffic may have peaked yesterday, on Saturday.  5380 hits to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=1065&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I posted on this topic last week, but I thought I&#8217;d add an update after the big Battlestar Galactica debut this past Friday.  Interesting to see how frak parties everywhere translated into traffic.</p>
<p>So far, despite the debut on Friday, it looks like my traffic may have peaked yesterday, on Saturday.  5380 hits to the blog that day, with my most popular BSG posts taking the top 5 slots for article popularity.</p>
<p>Why?  Check out the top 10 referring searches from Google, Yahoo, etc:</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1066" title="top-queries" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/top-queries.png?w=421&#038;h=229" alt="top-queries" width="421" height="229" /></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Notice a pattern?  I&#8217;ve discovered that my blog post is the number one result in Google for the search &#8220;fifth cylon&#8221;.  At least, it is today.</p>
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		<title>Bernie Madoff: YouTube Justice</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#8217;t posted here to date on the Bernie Madoff scandal.  No sense writing a huge amount on the topic at this point &#8211; it&#8217;s been well covered elsewhere.  Let&#8217;s just summarize my feelings as:

We will never see an end to Ponzi schemes, because they work.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t posted here to date on the Bernie Madoff scandal.  No sense writing a huge amount on the topic at this point &#8211; it&#8217;s been well covered elsewhere.  Let&#8217;s just summarize my feelings as:</p>
<ul>
<li>We will never see an end to Ponzi schemes, because they work.</li>
<li>This exposes some of the flaws in the fund of fund approach to hedge funds.  Picking a manager is almost impossible, adding a level indirection truly is. (courtesy Dave Swensen)</li>
<li>The level of scandal for absconding with billions is historic.  The number of charity dollars, particularly from the Jewish community, is truly shocking, and likely deserves its own, new circle of hell (for those Dante fans).</li>
<li>There is no punishment that can fit this crime.  The impact will literally be felt by millions.</li>
<li>This failure will likely be used as a scapegoat and excuse to permanently damage the hedge fund industry in ways that may materially harm our markets for decades. (knee-jerk, political grandstanding regulation)</li>
<li>We still haven&#8217;t heard the worst of it.</li>
</ul>
<p>Now, among friends, I&#8217;ve joked that while I&#8217;ve heard the expression &#8220;death by a thousand cuts&#8221;, this situation seems to be a good opportunity to actually test that theory out.  (yes, dark humor)</p>
<p>For my birthday, my brother actually forwarded me this Youtube video, and I couldn&#8217;t stop laughing.  So I&#8217;m posting it here, since it seems to have a shockingly low view count.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/01/15/bernie-madoff-youtube-justice/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/eA1eI35s9u8/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>Battlestar Galactica Hits My Blog Stats&#8230; Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you tell that Battlestar Galactica starts its final season in just ten days?  You can if you look at my blog stats&#8230;

Over 200 hits to the post &#8220;The Fifth &#38; Last Cylon&#8221; yesterday alone.
I&#8217;m even getting referral links from O&#8217;Reilly!  Love it.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you tell that Battlestar Galactica starts its final season in just ten days?  You can if you look at my blog stats&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1042" style="border:0 none;" title="Blog Stats" src="http://psychohistory.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/picture-1.png?w=400&#038;h=200" alt="Blog Stats" width="400" height="200" /></p>
<p>Over 200 hits to the post &#8220;<a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2008/01/09/battlestar-galactica-the-fifth-last-cylon-possible-spoilers/" target="_blank">The Fifth &amp; Last Cylon</a>&#8221; yesterday alone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m even getting referral links from <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/01/wsjs-end-of-wall-street-dont-o.html" target="_blank">O&#8217;Reilly</a>!  Love it.</p>
<p>No matter how I try to diversify this blog, ever since <a href="http://blog.adamnash.com/2006/11/14/my-theory-on-how-battlestar-galactica-will-end/" target="_blank">my first Battlestar Galactica post in 2006</a> (which still gets comments regularly), I continue to get massive traffic at key points in each season.</p>
<p>The only thing I think will be greater than the excitement for the series finale is the empty realization afterward that there is, in fact, no more.</p>
<p>Now for the ultimate spoiler&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; I am the fifth cylon.</p>
<p><strong>January 16th, 2009</strong></p>
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		<title>New Years Resolution: Avoid Medical Myths</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 03:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a fun post going into 2009.   Freakonomics pointed to a great piece at the British Medical Journal (part 1 &#38; part 2) which goes through a fairly large number of medical myths that are widely believed, but that we now know to be false.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fun post going into 2009.   <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/year-end-clearance-all-medical-myths-must-go/" target="_blank">Freakonomics</a> pointed to a great piece at the British Medical Journal (<a href="http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/337/dec17_2/a2769" target="_blank">part 1</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/335/7633/1288" target="_blank">part 2</a>) which goes through a fairly large number of medical myths that are widely believed, but that we now know to be false.</p>
<p>No sense going into 2009 repeating these falsehoods.  Although, despite being armed with the truth, no doubt many of your friends and family members will insist to the bitter end that &#8220;they know these to be true.&#8221;  (I watched a debate on #1 go on for over fifteen minutes this weekend between two family members.  I stayed out of it.)</p>
<p>In no particular order:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Sugar does not cause hyperactivity in children</strong>.  In fact, if anything, they have proven that if you tell parents that their kids have had sugar, they will believe that they are more hyperactive.</li>
<li><strong>Suicide rates are not higher over the holidays. </strong>At least, not in the United States.</li>
<li><strong>Poinsettias are not poisonous.</strong> Chomp all you want, you won&#8217;t be able to kill yourself this way.</li>
<li><strong>You do not lose most of your body heat through your head.</strong> It&#8217;s only about 10%.  Wearing a hat is not the key to being warm, although it might be the key to feeling like you are.  The wonders of placebo.</li>
<li><strong>Eating food late at night does not make you fat. </strong> This is one of those &#8220;logical&#8221; facts that no one bothered to check out&#8230; until they did.  And found out it wasn&#8217;t true.</li>
<li><strong>You do not need to drink eight (8) glasses of water a day. </strong> This one surprised me.  No evidence for this at all.</li>
<li><strong>We do not use only 10% of our brains. </strong> Total BS from the turn of the century (last turn, that is.)  We&#8217;ll have to come up with another excuse for why everyone isn&#8217;t brilliant.</li>
<li><strong>Shaving hair does not make it grow back darker and thicker.</strong> So many people swear this is true.</li>
<li><strong>Reading in low light does not ruin your eyes.</strong> Seems like good news for the last few Americans who read.</li>
<li><strong>Eating turkey does not make you sleepy.</strong> Or at least, any sleepier than any other meat.  Yes, I know this gave everyone an excuse to know what tryptophan is (or at least, pretend like they do.)</li>
</ol>
<p>Please do not take this post as some sort of challenge to pick fights with the less enlightened out there.  Believe me, they outnumber you greatly.</p>
<p>Instead, feel good knowing that your knowledgebase is that much cleaner now that you&#8217;ve cleaned out some of the garbage before 2009.</p>
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		<title>Battlestar Galactica: Catch the Frak Up!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s late on Christmas Eve, but what better present to unwrap than 13 glorious minutes of Battlestar Galactica that summarizes the entire series in one fail swoop?
Sci Fi: Catch the Frak Up!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s late on Christmas Eve, but what better present to unwrap than 13 glorious minutes of Battlestar Galactica that summarizes the entire series in one fail swoop?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?sub=specials&amp;clip=3" target="_blank"><strong>Sci Fi: Catch the Frak Up!</strong></a></p>
<p>This type of snarky, quick-fix summary became big a few years ago as studios struggled with ways to get audiences to pick up serial dramas after the first season.  Unlike sit-coms, it really does matter if you&#8217;ve seen the earlier seasons, and they really don&#8217;t want you to opt-out of the whole series.</p>
<p>Whatever the reason, hat&#8217;s off to the BSG team.  I&#8217;ve seen every episode and I found this 13-minute video incredibly useful.  It reminded me of so many sub-plots and facts that I had forgotten.</p>
<p>Battlestar Galactica resumes on January 16th.  Be prepared and catch the frak up.</p>
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		<title>From Smallville to Star Trek</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it just me, or does the 2009 Star Trek restart look like the creators of Smallville had a hand in it?
Judge for yourself.
How very Gen Y.
I&#8217;m excited to see the hip, young remake of Star Wars announced any day now.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or does the 2009 Star Trek restart look like the creators of Smallville had a hand in it?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/" target="_blank">Judge for yourself.</a></p>
<p>How very Gen Y.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited to see the hip, young remake of Star Wars announced any day now.</p>
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		<title>Top Five Candidates for the Fifth Cylon (Potential Spoilers)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, don&#8217;t read this if you are worried about spoilers.  Seriously.  Why are you even reading a post about the Fifth Cylon if you aren&#8217;t curious, right?
The number of people who read my blog always surprises me.  What surprises me even more is that almost everyone who tells me this asks when I&#8217;m going to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=987&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, don&#8217;t read this if you are worried about spoilers.  Seriously.  Why are you even reading a post about the Fifth Cylon if you aren&#8217;t curious, right?</p>
<p>The number of people who read my blog always surprises me.  What surprises me even more is that almost everyone who tells me this asks when I&#8217;m going to post about Battlestar Galactica again.</p>
<p>Since January is around the corner, it&#8217;s about time for another post.  Here we go.</p>
<p>First, there is a <a href="http://randomremarks.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/new-battlestar-galactica-promo/" target="_blank">Season Four promo</a> up on SciFi now.  If you haven&#8217;t watched it, you have to.  Now.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.syfyportal.com/news425609.html" target="_blank">SyFy Portal broke a story</a> yesterday that basically says that they&#8217;ve known the identity of the Fifth Cylon for some time.  They don&#8217;t come right out and say it, but they give a list of the &#8220;Top Five Candidates&#8221;.  I thought I&#8217;d reproduce the list here, with my own comments on their likelihood:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Lee Adama. </strong><em>Adam&#8217;s Odds = 1%. </em><strong> </strong>Sorry, exactly how would Adama raise a Cylon from birth and not know it?  To justify this, pretty much everyone would have to be a Cylon in one form or another.  I like this theory even less than Zak Adama&#8230; I&#8217;m giving it 1% out of respect for those who believe, and as a hedge against the remote chance of lameness on the writers&#8217; part.</li>
<li><strong>Felix Gaeta. </strong><em>Adam&#8217;s Odds = 50%.</em><strong> </strong>Some potential indicators that Gaeta is the one.  First, he helped the resistance, like the other four of the final five.  Seems to have always been around the one in command &#8211; either Adama or Baltar.  Sings strange music when injured, as if he is enjoying the &#8220;humanity&#8221; of pain and emotion.  Also, killed the doctor with a pen to the neck in a fairly brutal way.</li>
<li><strong>Laura Roslin. </strong><em>Adam&#8217;s Odds = 4%. </em>Sorry, I know this is a favorite for some people.  &#8220;Imagine the drama if Adama&#8217;s love interest is a Cylon!&#8221;  Maybe if Battlestar Galactica were on Lifetime I&#8217;d buy it.  But not on SciFi.  Not with this writing crew.  I&#8217;m giving it a nudge above Lee Adama because at least it puts a Cylon at the head of everything from the start, answering the question of why she was the only surviving member of the cabinet.</li>
<li><strong>Ellen Tigh. </strong><em>Adam&#8217;s Odds = 20%. </em>Not a terrible option, given that Colonel Tigh is one of the five, and the resurrection of Ellen would be an interesting cathartic moment for Saul given the murder.  Also helps explain the visualization of Number Six as Ellen, somewhat.  Problem with this answer is, well, it&#8217;s not really that interesting.</li>
<li><strong>Cally Tyrol. </strong><em>Adam&#8217;s Odds = 25%.</em><strong> </strong>Am I the only one who was glad to see Cally die?  Really hope it&#8217;s not this one, but it adds a very strange option to the mix, since it makes their baby a product of two Cylons.  Always nice to have a Cylon hater turn out to be one.  I personally can&#8217;t imagine this as a good choice, but so many people like it, I&#8217;m bumping the odds based on crowd-sourcing.</li>
</ul>
<p>Of course, I still like the idea of Zak Adama as the final cylon, since his ghost has been haunting the show since the beginning.  But too many people think that it can&#8217;t be a character we haven&#8217;t seen before.</p>
<p>Battlestar Galactica resumes on January 16th.</p>
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		<title>Handbrake 0.9.3 is Out!  A Must Have for Digital Movie Conversion.</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2008/11/25/handbrake-093-is-out-a-must-have-for-digital-movie-conversion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Handbrake 0.9.3, the best application for converting DVD video to MPEG 4 just got updated.
The new version has over 600 feature changes and improvements.  Some of my favorites:

A new &#8220;Apple Universal&#8221; preset to ensure universal rendering of files to play on everything from an iPod Nano to the AppleTV.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Handbrake 0.9.3, the best application for converting DVD video to MPEG 4 just got updated.</p>
<p>The new version has over 600 feature changes and improvements.  Some of my favorites:</p>
<ul>
<li>A new &#8220;Apple Universal&#8221; preset to ensure universal rendering of files to play on everything from an iPod Nano to the AppleTV.</li>
<li>Ability to encode ANY source file, not just a DVD.  This is huge for people converting video from other formats using other software (like Quicktime).  One step, and hopefully a lot faster.</li>
<li>Caching of video queues to disk.  Finally!  I can&#8217;t tell you how sad it is to queue up 20 movies for conversion overnight, and then discover in the morning that a crash not only happened during the second movie, but that on restart the queue is empty!  Now, at least crashes will be recoverable.</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://handbrake.fr/" target="_blank">Go here</a> to read more and download it now.</p>
<p>One small negative &#8211; the new version no longer bundles DVD decoding.  It seems that one of the contributors had requested the change.</p>
<p>No worries, however.  If you have VLC 0.9.x installed, Handbrake 0.9.3 will find it and use it&#8217;s DVD decryption library.  You can <a href="http://www.videolan.org/" target="_blank">download VLC here</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Luxury of a 1.5TB Hard Drive</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2008/11/10/the-luxury-of-a-15tb-hard-drive/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[1.5 TB]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve had the priviledge today to upgrade my iTunes hard drive to 1.5TB, courtesy of the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 (currently $149.99 at NewEgg).  So far, no surprise issues.  And yes, the space is truly luxurious.
I&#8217;ve been busy this year converting my entire DVD library to MPEG-4, so that I can easily access the movies in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.adamnash.com&blog=323242&post=960&subd=psychohistory&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the priviledge today to upgrade my iTunes hard drive to 1.5TB, courtesy of the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 (<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337" target="_blank">currently $149.99 at NewEgg</a>).  So far, no surprise issues.  And yes, the space is truly luxurious.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been busy this year converting my entire DVD library to MPEG-4, so that I can easily access the movies in iTunes and on any device around the house that is iTunes compatible (AppleTV, Mac Mini, etc).  Each movie takes between 1.0 to 4.0GB, depending on length (yes, I mean you Lord of the Rings: Return of the King Extended Version).</p>
<p>The big surprise for me was learning how many DVDs I actually owned&#8230; I would have though about 200, but it turned out to be well over 400.  Yes, that many.</p>
<p>So, last week, just as I was finishing the last stack, I ran out of room on the 1TB drive that I have solely dedicated to iTunes.  The 1TB drive I thought I would never ever fill.</p>
<p>Fortunately, my Mac Pro accommodated the rumba line of hard drive upgrades:</p>
<ul>
<li>My new 1.5TB drive replaced the 1.0TB drive for iTunes.</li>
<li>The 1.0TB drive replaced the 750GB drive for Time Machine.</li>
<li>The 750GB drive replaced the 300GB drive for iPhoto.</li>
<li>The 300GB is going up on eBay sometime soon.</li>
</ul>
<p>(In case you are wondering, the Time Machine drive is a backup for my System drive (300GB) and my iPhoto drive only.  I use a separate 2.25TB NAS for backing up the iTunes drive.)</p>
<p>So there you have it.  After a night of file transfers, a few alias folders reset, and telling iTunes to use the new location, I&#8217;m off an running.</p>
<p>438.67 GB Free.  And loving every byte of it.</p>
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		<title>24 Days Until 24, Season 7 Debut</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2008/10/31/24-days-until-24-season-7-debut/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it was too cute not to say.  24 days until a new season of 24.  Interesting, because it feels like roughly 24 years since the last season of 24.
They have a teaser trailer up.  More details at BuddyTV.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was too cute not to say.  24 days until a new season of 24.  Interesting, because it feels like roughly 24 years since the last season of 24.</p>
<p>They have a teaser trailer up.  More details at <a href="http://www.buddytv.com/articles/24/24-new-season-7-trailer-releas-24090.aspx" target="_blank">BuddyTV</a>.</p>
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