Why don’t you box your avatar in with signs, thus eliminating the need for him to walk about.

I think an over-simplification of interface to appeal to a casual audience has really created great inefficencies within the game.

The “Multi-Tool” clicker is great, but a “Deleter”, “Seeder/Harvester”, “Mover” clickers could all be added with ease and greatly reduce the number of clicks/time it takes to perform certain functions.

A Harvesting clicker would have a dramatic effect on Trees in particular. For example in the case of Sunflower vs Date trees you’d now be doing 1.7 times the clicks for 1.8 times the profit.

That kind of relation to clicks vs profit leads me to suspect that perhaps the payout of the trees is based on a 1-click harvest system and this is perhaps an oversight by the developers.

I also think some sort of “harvest” function for trees & animals that doesn’t require menu selection would be excellent.

Adam

[insert a rant about the dumb lag here]

(edited for conciseness)

The game would be massively improved by some form of bulk select and action (like Simcity).

If you make the assumption that -
“It takes roughly 15 minutes to replant your farm with a crop”
I would suggest that for the reasons I gave above your model may assume –
“It takes roughly 45 minutes to replant your farm with trees.”

I guess what I’m trying to get at is, with the extra time-requirement I just don’t see how trees can compare favorably to anything

I haven’t extended that to Trees (yet), but the same logic applies. All the points you list are reasons why Trees might actually turn out to be a poor crop, from a time perspective.

That being said, Trees don’t wither, so there is something to be said about not risking capital…

Adam

I can’t give you any in-depth analysis but I think this might give you a bit to think about when approaching the problem.

I chose Sunflowers & Date trees for analysis as I was under the impression they gave the highest returns. It doesn’t really matter for my argument.

I took a far, far simpler approach to looking for the most time-efficient way of making cash. I’m simply interested in the greatest Return-Per-Click.

Sunflowers
3 clicks per sunflower nets me $195. (Sow, Seed, Harvest)
1 click = $65

Date Tree
2 clicks per tree nets me $69 (Click Tree, Click Harvest menu-item)
1 click = $34.50

Yes, you can fit 16 trees into a square but that just makes you need more clicks.
Now it’s Per Square Per 3 Days for equality.
9 clicks per sunflower nets me $ 585.00
32 clicks per datefarm nets me $1104.00

This is just PER SQUARE, as your farm gets bigger so does the amount of required clicks think about a 24 x 24 square farm (on a 3 day cycle)
5,184 clicks per sunflower nets me $336,960.00
18,432 clicks per datefarm nets me $635,904.00

Immediately you’ll notice that we’re doing 3 times as many clicks for not even twice the amount of cash.

Not to mention that not every click is created equal. For the sake of argument we’ll assume a square is 100×100 pixels.
A sunflower is 10,000 pixels.
A datetree is 625 pixels. (10,000 / 16)

Consider a 10×10 square farm.

(Again this is per 3 day cycle for equality)
Sunflower
You’re aiming to click 900 times on 100 unique squares of 10,000 pixels among 1,000,000 pixels.
Each unique square is 1% of the total number of pixels.

Date Trees
You’re aiming to click 3200 times on 1,600 unique squares of 625 pixels among 1,000,000 pixels.
Each unique tree is .00625% of the total number of pixels.

And this is only the beginning. Because harvesting a tree requires the use of a submenu to harvest you have to move your mouse away from it’s current position and select the menu item. This adds even more time because you’ve now lost your spot among the 1,000,000 pixels and have to relocate it!

What does this mean for your analysis? Basically, when you go to apply your concept of time you’re going to find out that Trees really, really suck. I mean, just try planting a square of 16 trees and see how time-consuming and frustrating it is just to harvest them as opposed to harvesting a normal square.

I think people are too easily blinded by the whole “You can make $1104 per square instead of $585?!?!” and don’t consider time-component.

Hope this is on-topic, is easily understandable and I haven’t completely missed the point of what you are trying to work out!

I’m pretty sure you can do file->copy spreadsheet to make your own.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0At4q3IKpp00ndEZaeU00Qll0Y0JQZDc1QlVIekRpMVE&hl=en

Other notes:
* You only ever need to update Col K with your own numbers unless I have errors.
* K3 is copied down the column so you only need to update one square to recalculate the value of a farm-full of any one crop.
* K44 and K56 the total number of trees/animals.
* i45 and i57 are the number of trees/animals harvested per day to calculate when you’ll get ribbons.
* L45 and L57 are your farms tree and animal value per day.