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	<title>Comments on: Two Thoughts on the AIG Bonus Scandal</title>
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		<title>By: Bill McGonigle</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/03/17/two-thoughts-on-the-aig-bonus-scandal/#comment-26065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill McGonigle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, so you were the voice inside my head today. :)  You&#039;re exactly on target regarding non-bankruptcy.  In general, anybody who expected to have hundreds of billions of dollars thrown at walls like wet noodles and not have rampant corruption and greed, isn&#039;t being realistic.  I&#039;m lacking on outrage because none of it is surprising.

I did hear one defender of AIG report that many in the industry are compensated at a subsistence salary and rely on bonuses to be competitive (the example given was $40K salary and $60K bonuses).  That doesn&#039;t seem outlandish, and the defender was disingenuous in implying these were what people were complaining about, but your $5K number might need revising up a bit.  Some of these guys may owe more in income and property taxes than their base salaries cover.  The fellows who are getting $2M retention bonuses mailed to their retirement homes are fair game for the pitchfork mobs, though.

I&#039;m still pretty disappointed that nobody is dumping a load of bricks on S&amp;P yet.  They&#039;re the knuckleheads who rated these AIG securities AA, which kept AIG&#039;s rates down and multiples high.  If they had rated appropriately, AIG would have been less profitable and less competitive, but they would have had to become more stable to sell their wares to investors.  I see S&amp;P as this round&#039;s Arthur Anderson, but it hasn&#039;t hit yet.  Unless AIG lied to S&amp;P, but if that were the case Cuomo would be jumping up and down with fists full of indictments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so you were the voice inside my head today. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   You&#8217;re exactly on target regarding non-bankruptcy.  In general, anybody who expected to have hundreds of billions of dollars thrown at walls like wet noodles and not have rampant corruption and greed, isn&#8217;t being realistic.  I&#8217;m lacking on outrage because none of it is surprising.</p>
<p>I did hear one defender of AIG report that many in the industry are compensated at a subsistence salary and rely on bonuses to be competitive (the example given was $40K salary and $60K bonuses).  That doesn&#8217;t seem outlandish, and the defender was disingenuous in implying these were what people were complaining about, but your $5K number might need revising up a bit.  Some of these guys may owe more in income and property taxes than their base salaries cover.  The fellows who are getting $2M retention bonuses mailed to their retirement homes are fair game for the pitchfork mobs, though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still pretty disappointed that nobody is dumping a load of bricks on S&amp;P yet.  They&#8217;re the knuckleheads who rated these AIG securities AA, which kept AIG&#8217;s rates down and multiples high.  If they had rated appropriately, AIG would have been less profitable and less competitive, but they would have had to become more stable to sell their wares to investors.  I see S&amp;P as this round&#8217;s Arthur Anderson, but it hasn&#8217;t hit yet.  Unless AIG lied to S&amp;P, but if that were the case Cuomo would be jumping up and down with fists full of indictments.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Gutierreez</title>
		<link>http://blog.adamnash.com/2009/03/17/two-thoughts-on-the-aig-bonus-scandal/#comment-26062</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are exactly right that bankruptcy was the best option. Given that it&#039;s too late for that, I think what&#039;s happening now is perfect. The outrage may be the only was to prevent, or at least reduce, more of this in the future.
The Cuomo idea, in my opinion, would be counter productive. I&#039;d predict a lawsuit, but not from who most might expect.I think AIG would find a &quot;poster child&quot; person. A sympathetic single mom, for example, only getting a $10k bonus. It might difficult, and certainly not the norm, but I bet they could dig up one sympathetic person in that pile people and money.
Congress and AIG benefit from defusing the outrage. I&#039;d rather not give that to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are exactly right that bankruptcy was the best option. Given that it&#8217;s too late for that, I think what&#8217;s happening now is perfect. The outrage may be the only was to prevent, or at least reduce, more of this in the future.<br />
The Cuomo idea, in my opinion, would be counter productive. I&#8217;d predict a lawsuit, but not from who most might expect.I think AIG would find a &#8220;poster child&#8221; person. A sympathetic single mom, for example, only getting a $10k bonus. It might difficult, and certainly not the norm, but I bet they could dig up one sympathetic person in that pile people and money.<br />
Congress and AIG benefit from defusing the outrage. I&#8217;d rather not give that to them.</p>
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