Comments on: Osama Bin Laden and $144 Oil

By: Adam Nash

Adam Nash — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:51:19 +0000

I’m not sure what that means. I’m pretty sure that at some level, everyone fails some level of environmental test. I’d have to see the pure “green” proposal on energy to evaluate it. I’ve heard people ripping apart wind because of purported impact on birds and bats, for example.

McCain is greener than any President we’ve had to date, bar none, as he (like Obama) is actually proposing carbon limits, funding for cleantech, and a pretty firm commitment to moving us off foreign oil. McCain is targeting 60%, Obama 80%, but since neither has a completely solid plan on how to get there, it seems like just bragging rights. No one, by the way, has fully quantified the costs vs. benefits of that last 20%.

Nuclear power has some issues, but compared to natural gas, coal, or oil-based power plants, there is no question what is greener and better for us and the earth. We have been phenomenally stupid in the past 30 years to not invest in nuclear at a time when cleantech was not practical, and when dependence on foreign oil was growing.

If we really want to crack this problem, we need to pursue all of the above.

Adam

By: John Dingler, artist and patriot

John Dingler, artist and patriot — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:38:55 +0000

McCain is not “green,” Adam, and never will be.

By: Adam Nash

Adam Nash — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:50:15 +0000

John,

What you are stating is false. John McCain has been explicit about the need to pursue increases in supply (drilling) as well as decreasing demand (non-fossil fuel alternatives like nuclear, wind, solar) and investment in green technology. He has also publicly supported a cap & trade system around fossil fuels to decrease their use going forward.

Adam

By: John Dingler, artist and patriot

John Dingler, artist and patriot — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:03:46 +0000

Subversives and Evangelical Dominionist End-Timers, McCain but especially Palin, would just call for more oil drilling in more places in order to remain — as Bush correctly observed but did not nothing about — addicted to oil instead of using other, non-nuclear sources of energy in order to precipitate the End Times to take advantage of the Rapture to be pulled up into Heaven to avoid the Tribulation that their Fundie points of view largely helped cause.

By: JayJay

JayJay — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:19:55 +0000

Very interesting and eery given today’s oil price.